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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the equation 1 + 2x + x^3 + 4x^5 = 0 has exactly one real root. The subject area includes polynomial functions and the application of calculus concepts such as derivatives and the Intermediate Value Theorem.

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  • Participants discuss using the Intermediate Value Theorem to establish the existence of at least one real root. They explore the implications of the function's derivative being positive, suggesting that the function is always increasing, and question how this relates to the number of roots.

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There is an ongoing exploration of the relationship between the function's behavior (increasing nature) and the implications for the number of roots. Some participants have provided insights into the logic of the problem, while others seek clarification on the reasoning involved.

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Participants are considering the implications of the function's derivative and the conditions under which a polynomial can have multiple roots. There is a focus on understanding the relationship between the function's increasing nature and the existence of roots.

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show that the equation 1 + 2x + x^3 + 4x^5 = 0 has exactly one real root

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i don't know what to use to find out that it has exactly one real root. i know you use the intermediate value theorem for roots but what do you do to show it has exactly one?
 
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First show that it has at least one real root (you can use the intermediate value theorem, as you noted). Then consider its derivative. What does it tell you about this function?
 
i used f(1) and f(-1) to prove the intermediate value theorem. the derivative of the function is 2+3x^2+20x^4 which i guess shows that the function is always positive?
 
jkeatin said:
i used f(1) and f(-1) to prove the intermediate value theorem. the derivative of the function is 2+3x^2+20x^4 which i guess shows that the function is always positive?

It doesn't show the function is always positive. It shows that its always increasing. If it has a root, what does this tell you about the number of roots?
 
Take two numbers, say -1 and 0. Then f(-1) = -6 < 0 and f(0) = 1 > 0 (Letting f(x) = 1 + 2x + x^3 + 4x^5.)

By the Intermediate Value Theorem there exists a number "c" between -1 and 0 such that f(c) = 0. So the equation has a real root. Then suppose there are two roots a and b.

Then f(a) = f(b) = 0 and by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolle%27s_theorem" f'(r) = 0 for some r in the set of numbers (a,b). But f'(x) = 2 + 3x^2 + 20x^4 > 0 for all x, so it is impossible to have f'(r) = 0 for some c.

So there is exactly one root.
 
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re182 said:
Take two numbers, say -1 and 0. Then f(-1) = -6 < 0 and f(0) = 1 > 0 (Letting f(x) = 1 + 2x + x^3 + 4x^5.)

By the Intermediate Value Theorem there exists a number "c" between -1 and 0 such that f(c) = 0. So the equation has a real root. Then suppose there are two roots a and b.

Then f(a) = f(b) = 0 and by http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rolle%27s_theorem" f'(r) = 0 for some r in the set of numbers (a,b). But f'(x) = 2 + 3x^2 + 20x^4 > 0 for all x, so it is impossible to have f'(r) = 0 for some c.

So there is exactly one root.

Can anyone explain this is simpler terms. I grasp it for the most part but I don't see the relationship between the derivative being positive (Increasing) and having only one root on that interval.
 
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Dick said:
It doesn't show the function is always positive. It shows that its always increasing. If it has a root, what does this tell you about the number of roots?

Perfect. Forget everything. Just look int tothe logic. Always increasing. Hence it either intersects the x-axis once or not at all. But it is evident that the function exists in negative y and we can alos see that it exists in +ve y alos. So it intersects the x-axis once. Cause to intersect the x-axis more than once the function has to decrease. Bur we know that that doesnot happen
 

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