Show that a line does not intersect a plane (vectors)

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The problem involves determining whether a given line intersects a specified plane using vector equations. The plane is defined by the equation 4x + 5y + 7z = 21, while the line is represented parametrically as r = (1,2,3) + λ(1,2,-2), where λ is a real number.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the relationship between the normal vector of the plane and the direction vector of the line, questioning the implications of the dot product being zero. There is confusion regarding the interpretation of perpendicularity and intersection.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring the theoretical aspects of the problem. Some have pointed out the need to clarify the distinction between the vectors and the geometric entities they represent. There is acknowledgment of a mistake in reasoning, but no consensus has been reached on the overall approach to the problem.

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Participants note that simply showing the dot product is zero is insufficient; it must also be established that the line is not contained within the plane.

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Homework Statement


A plane is given by the equation: 4x + 5y + 7z = 21
and a line by the equation r = (1,2,3) + \lambda (1,2,-2) where λ is real.

Show that the line does not intersect the plane.


The attempt at a solution
So if I remember correctly, if n . a = 0, they do not intersect, where n is the normal vector and a is the direction of the line, ie. n = (4,5,7) and a = (1,2,-2)
n . a gives 4 + 10 - 14 which is 0.

However I'm more confused by the theory. If n . a = 0, does this not mean that they are perpendicular? So why wouldn't they intersect?
I know I must be looking at this the wrong way, but I can't see where :/
Thanks
 
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However I'm more confused by the theory. If n . a = 0, does this not mean that they are perpendicular? So why wouldn't they intersect?
The n vector is perpendicular to the plane.
If the line is perpendicular to the n vector then...

Note: it is not good enough just to show that n.a=0, you also have to show the line is not in the plane.
 
Jon.G said:

Homework Statement


A plane is given by the equation: 4x + 5y + 7z = 21
and a line by the equation r = (1,2,3) + \lambda (1,2,-2) where λ is real.

Show that the line does not intersect the plane.


The attempt at a solution
So if I remember correctly, if n . a = 0, they do not intersect, where n is the normal vector and a is the direction of the line, ie. n = (4,5,7) and a = (1,2,-2)
n . a gives 4 + 10 - 14 which is 0.

However I'm more confused by the theory. If n . a = 0, does this not mean that they are perpendicular? So why wouldn't they intersect?
Your confusion is in the word "they". In your first sentence "they" refers to the two vectors. In the second sentence "they" refers to the line and plane.

I know I must be looking at this the wrong way, but I can't see where :/
Thanks
 
Yeah, that's a very simple mistake I made there :/
Thank for pointing that out
 

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