Show that the determinant is equal to 0

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The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the determinant of a specific matrix related to the angles of a triangle is equal to zero. Participants explore various mathematical approaches, including the use of the Law of Cosines and properties of cyclic symmetry.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a determinant expression involving the cosines of the angles of a triangle and performs some algebraic manipulation.
  • Another participant suggests using the identity \( \alpha + \beta + \gamma = \pi \) to substitute for \( \gamma \) and considers the implications for the cosine function.
  • A later reply confirms the substitution for \( \cos \gamma \) and mentions that a computational tool suggests the determinant is zero, indicating that manual calculation may be feasible.
  • Another participant proposes exploring a geometric interpretation of the linear dependence of vectors related to the angles, although they have not yet found a suitable explanation.
  • One participant notes the cyclic symmetry of the expression derived and suggests that this symmetry implies an extremum when \( \cos \alpha = \cos \beta = \cos \gamma \), proposing the use of Lagrange multipliers to further investigate the result.

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Participants express various approaches to the problem, with no consensus on a single method or resolution. Multiple competing views and methods remain under consideration.

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Participants acknowledge the complexity of the expressions involved and the potential for simplification through various mathematical identities, but specific assumptions and steps remain unresolved.

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Hey! :o

Let $\alpha, \beta, \gamma$ be internal angles of an arbitrary triangle.

I want to show that $$\det \begin{pmatrix}\cos \beta & \cos \alpha&-1 \\ \cos\gamma & -1 & \cos\alpha \\ -1 & \cos\gamma & \cos\beta\end{pmatrix}=0$$

We have the following:
\begin{align*}&\det \begin{pmatrix}\cos \beta & \cos \alpha&-1 \\ \cos\gamma & -1 & \cos\alpha \\ -1 & \cos\gamma & \cos\beta\end{pmatrix}=\cos \beta \cdot \det \begin{pmatrix} -1 & \cos\alpha \\ \cos\gamma & \cos\beta\end{pmatrix}-\cos \alpha \cdot \det \begin{pmatrix} \cos\gamma & \cos\alpha \\ -1 & \cos\beta\end{pmatrix}+(-1)\cdot \det \begin{pmatrix} \cos\gamma & -1 \\ -1 & \cos\gamma \end{pmatrix} \\ & = \cos \beta \cdot \left (-\cos \beta-\cos\gamma\cdot \cos\alpha\right )-\cos \alpha \cdot \left (\cos\gamma\cdot \cos\beta-(-1)\cdot \cos\alpha\right )-\left (\cos^2 \gamma -(-1)^2\right ) \\ & =-\cos^2 \beta-\cos\gamma\cdot \cos\alpha\cdot \cos \beta-\cos\alpha\cdot \cos\gamma\cdot \cos\beta- \cos^2\alpha-\cos^2 \gamma +1 \\ & =1-2\cdot \cos\alpha\cdot \cos\beta\cdot \cos\gamma - \cos^2\alpha-\cos^2 \beta-\cos^2 \gamma \end{align*}

Do we use here the Law of cosines?
\begin{align*}&c^2=a^2+b^2-2ab\cdot \cos \gamma \Rightarrow \cos \gamma=\frac{a^2+b^2-c^2}{2ab} \\ &b^2=a^2+c^2-2ac\cdot \cos \beta \Rightarrow \cos \beta=\frac{a^2+c^2-b^2}{2ac} \\ &a^2=b^2+c^2-2bc\cdot \cos \alpha \Rightarrow \cos\alpha=\frac{b^2+c^2-a^2}{2bc}\end{align*}

Or how could we continue? (Wondering)
 
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Hey mathmari! (Smile)

That should work I think although it looks like the expression will get pretty complicated first.
Alternatively we might try to use $α+β+γ=\pi$.
That is, substitute $γ=\pi-α-β$. (Thinking)
 
I like Serena said:
That should work I think although it looks like the expression will get pretty complicated first.
Alternatively we might try to use $α+β+γ=\pi$.
That is, substitute $γ=\pi-α-β$. (Thinking)

Do you mean $\cos \gamma=\cos (\pi -\alpha-\beta)=-\cos (\alpha+\beta )$ ? (Wondering)
 
mathmari said:
Do you mean $\cos \gamma=\cos (\pi -\alpha-\beta)=-\cos (\alpha+\beta )$ ?

That is what I was thinking yes.
I didn't try to calculate it manually though. It's just an alternative approach.
However, I did find that it is sufficient for Wolfram to conclude that it's zero, so it seems likely that filling it in by hand is feasible. (Thinking)

Another alternative approach is to try to find and find a geometric reason why the vectors are linearly dependent.
I didn't find one yet though. (Thinking)
 
mathmari said:
$$1-2\cdot \cos\alpha\cdot \cos\beta\cdot \cos\gamma - \cos^2\alpha-\cos^2 \beta-\cos^2 \gamma$$

Doesn't this expression have cyclic symmetry? Implying there is an extremum at $\cos\alpha=\cos\beta=\cos\gamma$? Then, applying La Grange multipliers to the general case $\alpha+\beta+\gamma=\pi$, we arrive at the desired result.
 

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