Show these functions are 2 pi periodic

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The discussion revolves around proving the 2π periodicity of the functions g(t) and h(t), defined in terms of another function f(t). The context is related to Fourier series, and participants are exploring the implications of periodicity in relation to even and odd functions.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking, Exploratory

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  • Participants are examining the periodicity of g(t) and h(t) by substituting t + 2π into their definitions. Questions arise about the transformation of terms and the assumptions regarding the function f(t).

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There is an ongoing exploration of the conditions under which the problem holds true, particularly the requirement that f(t) must be periodic with a period of 2π. Some participants suggest that the original poster's assumptions may not be fully stated, leading to confusion. Others have provided examples and hints to guide the discussion without reaching a consensus.

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Participants note that the problem may be invalid unless specific conditions about the function f(t) are clarified, particularly regarding its periodicity and properties as an even or odd function. There is also mention of the original poster not returning for further clarification.

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g(t)=½( f(t)+f(-t) ) h(t)=½( f(t)-f(-t) )
show its 2π periodic so: g(t+2π) = ½( f(t+2π)+f(t-2π) ) why does -t become t-2π ?
½( f(t)+f(-t) ) = g(t)
h(t+2π)=½( f(t+2π)-f(t-2π) )
½( f(t)-f(-t) ) = h(t) is this correct?
can anybody show me some similar examples please?
this is from a Fourier series question paper.
thanks
 
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Of course, this problem is false unless ##f(t) = f(t+2\pi)##, which you haven't told us.

bbq pizza said:
g(t)=½( f(t)+f(-t) ) h(t)=½( f(t)-f(-t) )
show its 2π periodic so: g(t+2π) = ½( f(t+2π)+f(t-2π) ) why does -t become t-2π ?

It doesn't. If you put ##t+2\pi## in for ##t## in ##f(-t)## you get ##f(-(t+2\pi)) = f(-t -2\pi)##. Do you see why the numerator becomes ##f(t)+f(-t)##?
 
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An example would be the exponential definition of the cosine function.
##\cos(x) = \frac{1}{2} (e^{ix} + e^{-ix}) ##
This is analogous to your problem for ##g(x)## with ##f(x) = e^{ix}##.
##\cos(x+2\pi) = \frac{1}{2} (e^{i(x+2\pi)} + e^{-i(x+2\pi)})\\
= \frac{1}{2} (e^{ix}e^{i2\pi} +e^{-ix}e^{-i2\pi})\\
= \frac{1}{2} (e^{ix} + e^{-ix})\\
= \cos(x) ##
 
Hint: prove that if a function has period T, then ##f(x-T)=f(x)## as long as f is defined in x-T.
 
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LCKurtz said:
Of course, this problem is false unless ##f(t) = f(t+2\pi)##,
or maybe the sum of a periodic function and an odd function.
 
LCKurtz said:
Of course, this problem is false unless ##f(t) = f(t+2\pi)##, which you haven't told us.

haruspex said:
or maybe the sum of a periodic function and an odd function.

Well, I assumed, which was also unstated, that problem was to prove that if ##f## has period ##2\pi##, then when you write ##f = g + h## with ##g## even and ##h## odd, that ##g## and ##h## have period ##2\pi##. In that context I'm not sure what you are suggesting.

And, annoyingly enough and a pet peeve of mine, the OP hasn't returned to the thread to clarify anything
 
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