Showing a function is strictly decreasing on different intervals

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The discussion revolves around proving that a piecewise function defined as g(x)=1/x for x < 0 and g(x)=-x for x≥0 is strictly decreasing on the intervals (-∞,0) and [0,∞), while also demonstrating that it is not strictly decreasing on the entire real line ℝ.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss breaking the proof into cases based on the piecewise definition of the function. There are attempts to show that g(x)=1/x is strictly decreasing on (-∞,0) and that g(x)=-x is strictly decreasing on [0,∞). Questions arise regarding the clarity of the function's behavior and the implications of its definition on different intervals.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the proof structure, with some providing corrections and suggestions for clarity and conciseness. There is recognition of the need to demonstrate mathematical reasoning rather than just stating conclusions. The discussion is ongoing, with participants refining their arguments and addressing typographical errors.

Contextual Notes

There are mentions of potential confusion regarding the function's definition and notation, as well as the importance of visualizing the function's graph to understand its behavior across its entire domain.

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Homework Statement


Define a function g on ℝ by f(x)=1/x if x < 0 and f(x)=-x if x≥0.
Prove f is strictly decreasing on the intervals (-∞,0) and [0,∞), but that g is not decreasing on ℝ.


Homework Equations





The Attempt at a Solution


I think I understand what I need to show, but I often have trouble properly showing it. I broke it up into the three cases that the directions seem to indicate.

Show g(x)=1/x is strictly decreasing on (-∞,0)

Let x and y be any elements in the interval (-∞,0) that satisfy the inequality x < y.
Since the function on the interval is just the reciprocal, all of the image is between -1 and 0.

For any x < y, it follows that f(x) > f(y) because the larger the magnitude of the element, the further away from 0 the element is and thus the closer its reciprocal is to 0.

Show g(x)=-x is strictly decreasing on [0,∞)

Since g is a linear function on the interval [0,∞) with a negative slope, this function is strictly decreasing on [0,∞).

Show g is not strictly decreasing on ℝ

Suppose g is strictly decreasing on ℝ
Then g(.5) > g(0)→ -2 > 0
This is not true, so it cannot be decreasing at this portion of the range.
Hence, g is not strictly decreasing on ℝ.
 
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k3k3 said:

Homework Statement


Define a function g on ℝ by f(x)=1/x if x < 0 and f(x)=-x if x≥0.
Prove f is strictly decreasing on the intervals (-∞,0) and [0,∞), but that g is not decreasing on ℝ.
Is the function g or f?
I think this is what you meant to say:
Define a function g on ℝ by g(x)=1/x if x < 0 and g(x)=-x if x≥0.
Prove g is strictly decreasing on the intervals (-∞,0) and [0,∞), but that g is not decreasing on ℝ.
k3k3 said:

Homework Equations


The Attempt at a Solution


I think I understand what I need to show, but I often have trouble properly showing it. I broke it up into the three cases that the directions seem to indicate.

Show g(x)=1/x is strictly decreasing on (-∞,0)

Let x and y be any elements in the interval (-∞,0) that satisfy the inequality x < y.
Since the function on the interval is just the reciprocal, all of the image is between -1 and 0.
What's this about the image being between -1 and 0? For example, let x = -1/2 and y = -1/3. Then 1/x = -2 and 1/y = -3.

Since x < y, and both numbers are negative, then 1/x > 1/y, so g is decreasing. I think this is all you need to say.
k3k3 said:
For any x < y, it follows that f(x) > f(y) because the larger the magnitude of the element, the further away from 0 the element is and thus the closer its reciprocal is to 0.

Show g(x)=-x is strictly decreasing on [0,∞)

Since g is a linear function on the interval [0,∞) with a negative slope, this function is strictly decreasing on [0,∞).

Show g is not strictly decreasing on ℝ

Suppose g is strictly decreasing on ℝ
Then g(.5) > g(0)→ -2 > 0
This is not true, so it cannot be decreasing at this portion of the range.
Hence, g is not strictly decreasing on ℝ.
 
Yes, I meant how you corrected it. Sorry about that!

Other than the first part, the rest looks good?
 
I didn't look at anything very closely after the comments I inserted earlier. Here's the rest of your proof.
k3k3 said:
For any x < y, it follows that f(x) > f(y) because the larger the magnitude of the element, the further away from 0 the element is and thus the closer its reciprocal is to 0.
Don't say "it follows that f(x) > f(y) because ..." Just show it like I did in my earlier post. What you have above, IMO, is more wordy than it should be, and less mathematical than it should be.

Also, since you are presumably in a calculus class (you posted this in the Calculus & Beyond section), you can show that g'(x) < 0 for all x in (-∞, 0), and there's a connection between that fact and whether a function is increasing or decreasing.
k3k3 said:
Show g(x)=-x is strictly decreasing on [0,∞)

Since g is a linear function on the interval [0,∞) with a negative slope, this function is strictly decreasing on [0,∞).

Show g is not strictly decreasing on ℝ

Suppose g is strictly decreasing on ℝ
Then g(.5) > g(0)→ -2 > 0
This is not true, so it cannot be decreasing at this portion of the range.
Hence, g is not strictly decreasing on ℝ.
g(.5) = -.5, not -2. On the interval you chose -- [0, .5] -- g is in fact decreasing, so this does not further your argument. If you haven't sketched a graph of the function, you should do so, and this will help you understand why this function isn't decreasing on R even though it is decreasing on each half of its domain.
 
g(.5) was a typo. I meant g(-.5) since when x < 0, g(x) = 1/x and that is why I said -2. That should show why it is not decreasing on all of R since -2 < 0.

Thank you for the suggestions! I will revise my proof.
 

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