Showing Relation of e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ)=x+a Using Power Series

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The problem involves demonstrating the operator relation e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ) = x+a, where the operator e^A is defined using a power series expansion. The context is rooted in quantum mechanics and operator algebra.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the calculation of the operator expression by substituting x with the differential operator iħd/dp. There is confusion regarding the relevance of the power series and the proper interpretation of the problem statement. Some participants question the clarity of the original problem and seek restatement.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights into the calculations and clarifying misunderstandings. Some guidance has been offered regarding the missing numerical factor in the calculations, and there is a recognition that the power series may not be necessary for the solution.

Contextual Notes

Participants express uncertainty about the phrasing of the problem and the implications of the power series definition. There is a focus on ensuring that the final expression aligns with the original operator relation without explicitly resolving the problem.

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1. The problem statement:

Show that if the operator relation

e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ) = x+a

holds. The operator e^A is defined to the

e^A= Ʃ(A^n)/n!
n=0

[Hint: Calculate e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ)f(p) where f(p)is any function of p, and use the representation x=iħd/dp]


2. Homework Equations :

I am not entirely sure but I think those presented in the problem statement are sufficient.


3. The Attempt at a Solution :

I calculated e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ)f(p) by replacing x=iħd/dp to get;

e^(ipa/ħ)iħd/dp[e^(-ipa/ħ)f(p)]= e^(ipa/ħ){iħ[(-ia/ħ)e^(-ipa/ħ)f(p)+e^(-ipa/ħ)f'(p)]}
= e^(ipa/ħ){ae^(-ipa/ħ)f(p)+e^(-ipa/ħ)f'(p)]}
= af(p)+f'(p).
∴ af(p)+f'(p) = x + a.

From this point I become entirely confused, I don't know how everything is suppose to tie into the power series.
 
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RedMech said:
1. The problem statement:

Show that if the operator relation

e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ) = x+a

holds. The operator e^A is defined to the

e^A= Ʃ(A^n)/n!
n=0

Hello RedMech. From the wording of the problem, I'm not sure what the question is. Could you restate what it is you are suppose to show?
 
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RedMech said:
I copied it word for word.

Well, not quite. You added the word "if" that threw me a bit. But, no problem. Your link cleared it up.

RedMech said:
I calculated e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ)f(p) by replacing x=iħd/dp to get;

e^(ipa/ħ)iħd/dp[e^(-ipa/ħ)f(p)]= e^(ipa/ħ){iħ[(-ia/ħ)e^(-ipa/ħ)f(p)+e^(-ipa/ħ)f'(p)]}
= e^(ipa/ħ){ae^(-ipa/ħ)f(p)+e^(-ipa/ħ)f'(p)]}
= af(p)+f'(p).

This looks good except for a missing numerical factor for the part shown in red above.
Your result will then have the form af(p)+cf'(p) where c is the missing factor. See what happens if you then rewrite f'(p) in terms of the x operator acting on f(p).

From this point I become entirely confused, I don't know how everything is suppose to tie into the power series.

You don't need to use the power series. I think the problem statement threw that in just to state the meaning of e^A.
 
TSny said:
Well, not quite. You added the word "if" that threw me a bit. But, no problem. Your link cleared it up.



This looks good except for a missing numerical factor for the part shown in red above.
Your result will then have the form af(p)+cf'(p) where c is the missing factor. See what happens if you then rewrite f'(p) in terms of the x operator acting on f(p).



You don't need to use the power series. I think the problem statement threw that in just to state the meaning of e^A.

So af(p)+cf'(p), would be my final solution. I pay no attention to the power series?
 
TSny said:
See what happens if you then rewrite f'(p) in terms of the x operator acting on f(p).

Not sure I know what you mean by this. The phrasing of the question has thrown me off so much that I don't know what I am looking for.
 
RedMech said:
So af(p)+cf'(p), would be my final solution. I pay no attention to the power series?

No, that's not the final solution. You are asked to show that e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ) = x+a. So far you have shown that [e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ)]f(p) = af(p)+cf'(p) for any function f(p) and where c is the factor you dropped (you'll need to go back and find the value of c). You still need to show that e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ) is equivalent to x+a. But, you are almost there. You just need to rewrite the last term of af(p)+cf'(p) in terms of the operator x.

You will not need the power series.
 
TSny said:
You still need to show that e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ) is equivalent to x+a. But, you are almost there. You just need to rewrite the last term of af(p)+cf'(p) in terms of the operator x.

Okay, I'm with you now. Let me see what I can do and I'll come back with my result.
 
C=iħ. Giving us af(p) + iħd/dpf(p).

Leading to
[e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ)]f(p)= [a + iħd/dp]f(p).

∴e^(ipa/ħ)xe^(-ipa/ħ)=a + iħd/dp as required. Does this seem right?
 
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Yes, I think that's right.
 
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TSny said:
Yes, I think that's right.

Thank you so much. This makes sense. I see why I needed to bring in the f(p) function. My careless differentiation mistake and that power series confused me.
 

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