Showing the expectation values of a system are real quantities

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around demonstrating that the expectation values of position and momentum in a quantum mechanical system are real quantities, based on a given wave function. The context is rooted in quantum mechanics, specifically in the properties of wave functions and their implications for expectation values.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to identify a suitable wave function for the problem, suggesting a specific form and expressing uncertainty about its correctness. They raise questions about the integration process required for calculating the expectation value of momentum.
  • Some participants question the necessity of a specific wave function for the initial analysis, suggesting that the problem can be approached without one.
  • Others suggest reconsidering the form of the wave function to facilitate the calculations.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different interpretations of the problem and the requirements for the wave function. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to the problem, but there is no explicit consensus on the correct wave function or method at this stage.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the constraints of the problem, including the requirement to use integration by parts for the momentum expectation value and the implications of normalizability for the wave function. There is an acknowledgment of potential misunderstandings regarding the setup of the problem.

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Homework Statement



A one-dimension system is in a state described by the normalisable wave function Ψ(x,t) i.e. Ψ → 0 for x → ±∞.

(a) Show that the expectation value of the position ⟨x⟩ is a real quantity. [1]

(b) Show that the expectation value of the momentum in the x-direction ⟨p⟩ is a real quantity, too. Hint: using integration by parts and normalisability show that ⟨pˆx⟩ = ⟨p⟩∗. [4]


Homework Equations



1=N∫ψ*ψ.dx

<x>=∫ψ* xψ.dx over all space

<p>=∫ψ* -ih dψ/dx.dx over all space

The Attempt at a Solution



The difficult aspect of this for me is determining what the correct wave function is. Using the information given I assumed that the correct wave function was e-ax2/2 eiEt/h (where a/2 is an arbitrary constant) as it fits the above requirements (I could be wrong.)

However, upon normalising and calculating <x> and <p>, the values obtained will of course will be 0 and therefore real as my assumption was a symmetric wave function. This is all well and good, however the question explicitly states to use integration by parts to solve for <p>.

<p>=N∫(e-ax2/2 eiEt/h) -ih d/dx(e-ax2/2 e-iEt/h).dx over all space

which gave:

<p>=N iha∫xe-ax2.dx over all space

which cannot be integrated by parts as far as I understand-perhaps it can?. Have I got the wrong end of the stick somewhere in my thinking?

Thanks in advance.
 
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You wave function is incorrect. Do not plug it in until you have done the math. You do not even need a "test" wavefunction for part a.
 
Thanks for the prompt reply, but I don't quite follow. Could you clarify what you mean by 'not needing a wave function'? I feel I am approaching the problem from the wrong angle.
 
Hmm, perhaps forget what I mentioned previously. You simply need to reconsider your wave function. Perhaps try something of the form \psi = e^{\pm i(kx-E t/ \hbar)}. . .
 

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