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The discussion revolves around a petition supporting the mathematical constant pi in opposition to tau. Participants express various opinions on the use of Greek letters in mathematics, the implications of the petition, and the nature of scientific truths versus legal ones. The conversation includes humor and personal anecdotes, as well as concerns about the petition's request for personal information.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants advocate for signing the petition to support pi, while others express indifference or support for tau.
  • Concerns are raised about the appropriateness of using Greek letters for constants rather than just angles.
  • A humorous suggestion is made to use Cyrillic letters for constants, specifically proposing the use of the lower case Cyrillic 'P' for pi.
  • Participants question the legitimacy of the petition due to its request for extensive personal information.
  • There is a playful exchange regarding the use of transcendental meditation to make decisions about pi and tau.
  • Some participants express confusion about technical issues in the forum, such as a large blank space in posts.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not reach a consensus, with multiple competing views on the significance of pi versus tau and the implications of the petition. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the appropriateness of the petition and the use of Greek letters.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the implications of changing the representation of mathematical constants and the potential confusion it may cause. There are also unresolved technical issues related to forum functionality.

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Readers interested in mathematical notation, the cultural significance of mathematical constants, and the interplay between scientific and legal frameworks may find this discussion engaging.

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Here is a petition about supporting pi against tau. So if you think that pi should not be changed, please sign this petition: http://www.change.org/petitions/khan-academy-withdraw-the-support-for-tau. I'm not sure if the petition will help, but...

P.S. If this petitions are not allowed, by all means lock or delete this thread, but please don't give me an infraction!
 
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vi hart makes cool youtube videos. If she's supporting tau, then so am I!

Actually, I have a problem with both so don't really care who wins. Greek letters should represent angles; not constants! pi should be the symbol for longitude of perigee; not 3.14!

If you start using Greek letters for all kinds of things instead of just angles, how will anybody ever know what the heck is going on?!

Secret tip: It's always better to hope banning doesn't occur to mentors than to remind them they have the power! Fortunately, a glitch in the software results in mentors not being able to read posts written in Lemon Chiffon.
 
BobG said:
vi hart makes cool youtube videos. If she's supporting tau, then so am I!

Actually, I have a problem with both so don't really care who wins. Greek letters should represent angles; not constants! pi should be the symbol for longitude of perigee; not 3.14!

If you start using Greek letters for all kinds of things instead of just angles, how will anybody ever know what the heck is going on?!
Why's there such a large blank space at the bottom of this post? I'm so confused :confused: :eek:
 
Ryan_m_b said:
Why's there such a large blank space at the bottom of this post? I'm so confused :confused: :eek:
I had the same question. Is there a glitch?
 
Evo said:
I had the same question. Is there a glitch?
Hmmm perhaps we should ban everyone just to be sure nothing dodgy is going on...
 
Ryan_m_b said:
Hmmm perhaps we should ban everyone just to be sure nothing dodgy is going on...
Oh, that's a good idea! We can never be too careful.
 
Mentors going off on tangents is always a bad sine.

Try to keep your posts on topic.

Of course, if only angles can be represented by Greek letters, we'll have a problem with constants. I think constants should be represented with letters from the Cyrillic alphabet. I suggest the lower case Cyrillic 'P' for pi (i.e. - 3.14159...)
 
BobG said:
Mentors going off on tangents is always a bad sine.

Aaarrrrgggghhhhh...
 
If they substitute tau for pi then ... ... ... mentors should ban lemon chiffon tau. Sorry. I tried to stay on topic as you suggested, but it was too hard.
 
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Tau or pi, no big deal, I couldn't care less. If something's got to go, let it be "ksi."

What's that?

Oh, the cascade hyperon!
 
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This reminds me of Indiana Pi Bill. Don't you think voting scientific truths is a form of the equivocation fallacy? I mean, sure, legal laws get to be voted into effect, but legal laws are not the same as scientific laws conveying some scientific truth.

Besides, that website is asking for WAAAAAYYY too much personal information for my taste.

EDIT:

e-petition to support [itex]\pi[/itex] ... hehehehe
 
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I'll have to use transcendental meditation to decide.
 
  • #13
george jones said:
i'll have to use transcendental meditation to decide.

ΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩ
 
  • #14
Danger said:
Aaarrrrgggghhhhh...

I secant that! :biggrin:
 
  • #15
Dickfore said:
Besides, that website is asking for WAAAAAYYY too much personal information for my taste.

Then why not sign anonymously? E.g.

First Name: Pi
Last Name: Wins
Email: Pi_rules@gmail.com
Address: Pi Street
City: Pi City
Country: Any real country, such as India, UK,...
Post Code: 3141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034
 
  • #16
dimension10 said:
Then why not sign anonymously? E.g.

First Name: Pi
Last Name: Wins
Email: Pi_rules@gmail.com
Address: Pi Street
City: Pi City
Country: Any real country, such as India, UK,...
Post Code: 3141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944592307816406286208998628034
Thanks a lot pal. I hope someone exposes all of your personal information on the web too.
 
  • #17
Jimmy Snyder said:
Thanks a lot pal. I hope someone exposes all of your personal information on the web too.

No, its supposed to be fake!
 
  • #18
"I'll have to use transcendental meditation to decide."

I'm not sure whether you are irrational or analytic.
 
  • #19
ApplePion said:
"I'll have to use transcendental meditation to decide."
That's like using sand to start a fire.
 
  • #20
george jones said:
i'll have to use transcendental meditation to decide.

Chi Meson said:
ΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩΩ
:smile:
 

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