Similarity between P&ID and Electrical diagrams?

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The discussion explores the analogy between Piping and Instrumentation Diagrams (P&ID) and electrical circuit diagrams, emphasizing that while both systems involve flow—fluid flow in P&ID and electrical current in circuits—this analogy can be misleading. Key concepts such as Ohm's Law (E=IR), the behavior of inductors (V=Ldi/dt), and capacitors (I=Cdv/dt) are crucial for understanding electrical circuits. The conversation highlights the importance of grasping units of measurement, such as amperes, coulombs, volts, and watts, to develop a solid foundation in electrical principles.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Piping and Instrumentation Diagrams (P&ID)
  • Familiarity with electrical circuit concepts
  • Knowledge of Ohm's Law (E=IR)
  • Basic comprehension of electrical units: amperes, coulombs, volts, and watts
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the principles of fluid dynamics in P&ID systems
  • Learn about electrical circuit analysis techniques
  • Explore advanced topics in electrical engineering, such as inductance and capacitance
  • Investigate the practical applications of Ohm's Law in real-world circuits
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Electrical engineers, mechanical engineers, students in engineering disciplines, and anyone interested in the relationship between fluid dynamics and electrical systems.

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Dear Forum Memebrs,

Could you please advise if it is possible to think that

in some instances the flow of fluid in P&ID diagram is similar to the flow of electrical current in circuit boards: in order to have an electric current you have to have a potential difference across two points (which is called voltage across two point s)thus defining potentials at each junction of complicated electrical circuit one can identify the flow of current, so much the same to have a fluid flow across two points you have to have a pressure differential... Thanks
 
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It is true that many people use this analogy. Both fluid pipes and wired circuits conserve energy and mass/charge. But to go beyond that, the analogy can be very misleading, so engineers and scientists discourage it.
 
Fluid flow is a useful analogy to initially explain electricity to someone with absolutely no electronics background. Unfortunately, people make a "hobby" out of stretching the analogy too far. It's best to think in terms of ohms law (E=IR) and the inductor (V=Ldi/dt) and capacitor ( I = Cdv/dt) equations and the associated equations for power and energy.

Ohm's law, E=IR, simply says the current through a resistance increases with voltage.

Also, understanding the units is helpful, for example that 1 ampere of current flow is a flow of 1 coulomb/second where a coulomb is a unit of charge equal to 6.241×1018 electrons.

Volts are a bit more complex, representing potential energy per unit of charge or joules/coulomb. In other words, 1 joule of energy change will be imparted to every coulomb of charge passing though two points that have 1 volt of potential difference. You could say that's like a hydraulic pressure drop, but why bother? (to be honest, I seldom think of a volt this way. I just think of it as a volt.)

1 watt is the power dissipated when a coulomb of charge changes by 1 volt every second (or 1 joule per second)

Just reading over those relationships until they feel intuitive (and trying to visualize what is being expressed) is the best way to really get a grasp on electricity.
 

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