Understanding the Euler Formula and its Application in Complex Analysis

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The discussion centers on understanding the Euler formula, specifically how it applies to complex numbers. The key point is that for a complex number z = x + iy, the expression e^z can be rewritten as e^x * e^(iy), leading to the conclusion that |e^z| = e^x. A misunderstanding arises when attempting to plot e^z in the coordinate plane, where it is clarified that |e^z| does not equal the square root of the sum of squares of its components. The conversation emphasizes the importance of correctly applying the properties of complex exponentials and refers to the Euler formula, which connects complex exponentiation to trigonometric functions. Ultimately, the participants arrive at a clearer understanding of the relationship between the magnitude of e^z and its real component.
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Rudin makes the following statement in his Real and Complex Analysis, page 3:

If z = x + iy, x and y are real, then ez = exeiy. Hence |ez| = ex.

I don't understand what's happening here. If I draw ez on coordinate axes with imaginary numbers on the y-axis and real numbers on the x-axis, I get |ez| = √((ex)2 + (eiy)2. Does this equal ex somehow?
 
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EternusVia said:
Rudin makes the following statement in his Real and Complex Analysis, page 3:

If z = x + iy, x and y are real, then ez = exeiy. Hence |ez| = ex.

I don't understand what's happening here. If I draw ez on coordinate axes with imaginary numbers on the y-axis and real numbers on the x-axis, I get |ez| = √((ex)2 + (eiy)2. Does this equal ex somehow?

No, you do NOT get what you claim when you plot the points correctly in the ##(x,y)-##plane. In fact, ##e^{x+iy} = e^x e^{iy} \neq e^x + i|e^{iy}|,## so ##|e^{x+iy}| \neq \sqrt{(e^x)^2 + (e^{iy})^2}.## Anyway, ##(e^{iy})^2## need not be a positive real number---it could be negative or imaginary.
 
Ray Vickson said:
No, you do NOT get what you claim when you plot the points correctly in the ##(x,y)-##plane. In fact, ##e^{x+iy} = e^x e^{iy} \neq e^x + i|e^{iy}|,## so ##|e^{x+iy}| \neq \sqrt{(e^x)^2 + (e^{iy})^2}.## Anyway, ##(e^{iy})^2## need not be a positive real number---it could be negative or imaginary.

You're right. I definitely made a mistake there. So how do we deduce ##| e^z | = e^x##?
 
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EternusVia said:
You're right. I definitely made a mistake there. So how do we deduce ##| e^z | = e^x##?

PF rules do not allow me to tell you that. You must do it on your own.

What does your textbook say? Is there any relevant material in your course notes? Have you looked on-line?
 
Moved thread, since this seems to be more of a conceptual question than a homework question.
 
Ray Vickson said:
PF rules do not allow me to tell you that. You must do it on your own.

What does your textbook say? Is there any relevant material in your course notes? Have you looked on-line?

I'm trying to work through some of Rudin's book on my own, so no course notes. But I think I might have something.

Rudin says that ##|e^{it}|^2 = e^{it} * e^{-it} = e^0 = 1## and we have ##|e^{it}| = 1##. Applying this procedure to ##|e^z|## we have

##|e^z|^2 = e^z * \bar{ e^z } = e^{x + iy} * e^{x - iy} = e^{2x}## and thus ##|e^z| = e^x##.

Does that work?
 
Looks OK to me, but I think you can do it with less work. eit represents a point on the unit circle in the complex plane, so |eit| = 1.

##|e^z| = |e^{x + iy}| = |e^x||e^{iy}| = |e^x| = e^x##
 
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Mark44 said:
Looks OK to me, but I think you can do it with less work. eit represents a point on the unit circle in the complex plane, so |eit| = 1.

##|e^z| = |e^{x + iy}| = |e^x||e^{iy}| = |e^x| = e^x##

Ah! Of course. Thank you.
 
EternusVia said:
Ah! Of course. Thank you.

Also: look at the famous Euler formula: ##e^{it} = \cos(t) + i \, \sin(t)## for any real ##t##. One easy way to see this is to look at the series expansion. By definition, for any quantity ##w## we have
e^w = 1 + w + \frac{1}{2!} w^2 + \frac{1}{3!} w^3 + \cdots + \frac{1}{n!} w^n + \cdots.
Apply this to ##w = i t## (where ##t## is real), and separate out the real and imaginary parts, to get
e^{it} = 1 + it + \frac{1}{2!} (it)^2 + \frac{1}{3!} (it)^3 + \frac{1}{4!} (it)^4 + \frac{1}{5!} (it)^5 + \cdots \\<br /> = \left( 1 - \frac{1}{2!} t^2 + \frac{1}{4!} t^4 - \cdots \right) + i \left( t - \frac{1}{3!} t^3 + \frac{1}{5!} t^5 - \cdots \right) \\<br /> = \cos(t) + i \, \sin(t)

Note that ##|e^{it}|^2 = \cos^2(t) + \sin^2(t) = 1## for any real ##t##.

See, eg., http://mathworld.wolfram.com/EulerFormula.html
 
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