Simple Calculus Word Problem (using derivatives to anaylze function models)

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The problem involves a norman window composed of a semicircle and a rectangle, with a total perimeter constraint of 16 cm. The objective is to determine the dimensions that maximize the area of the window.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive relationships between the perimeter and area using algebraic expressions. Some participants question the accuracy of the equations used, particularly regarding the perimeter equation and its components. Others suggest simplifying the area expression and taking derivatives to find critical values.

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Participants are actively engaging with the original poster's attempts, providing feedback on algebraic errors and encouraging a clearer approach to the problem. There is a recognition of typographical mistakes, and some guidance is offered on how to proceed with the differentiation and critical point analysis.

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There are indications of confusion regarding the setup of the equations, particularly the relationship between the dimensions of the semicircle and rectangle. The original poster expresses uncertainty about the correctness of their approach and the resulting values.

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Hello, new here, first post. Just need some help with homework.

Question One

Homework Statement



This norman window is made up of a semicircle and a rectangle. The total perimeter of the window is 16 cm. What is the maximum area?

**
* * <<< Semicircle
*****
| | <<< Rectangle
L | |
______
D

Homework Equations



P (total) = 2L + D + (pi * d)

A (total) = D * L + (pi(d/2)^2)/2)


The Attempt at a Solution



What I did was using this equation:
16 = 2L + D + ((pi * d)/2)
L = 8 - d/2 - ((pi * d)/4)

A = D (8 - d/2 - ((pi * d)/4)) + (pi (d/2)^2)/2)
A = 8d - (d^2)/2
A' = 8 - d
Let 0 = A' to find critical value
then 8 = d.

When I sub that back into the original equation, I get L as a value less than 8, which doesn't make sense. (I think it works out to be L = 4 - pi)

I'm pretty much lost, sorry if this is too messy to read, any help would be appreciated. Thanks
 
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You made a great start. But where did you get "16 = 2L + D + ((pi * d)/2)"?? The "/2" wasn't in your original expression for P. You are just making algebraic mistakes.
 
I think you're doing fine up until this point:

A = D (8 - d/2 - ((pi * d)/4)) + (pi (d/2)^2)/2)

Which should simplify into

<br /> <br /> A = 8*D - \frac{D^2}{2} - \frac{pi*D^2}{4} + \frac{pi*D^2}{8}<br />

You would then go on to take the derivate and then set it to zero and solve for your D value

I've been beaten =(
 
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Dick said:
You made a great start. But where did you get "16 = 2L + D + ((pi * d)/2)"?? The "/2" wasn't in your original expression for P. You are just making algebraic mistakes.

ah sorry, its actually supposed to be "/2", that way its half the area, sorry the drawing didnt show up. its supposed to be a semi-circle connected to a rectangle.

RyanSchw said:
I think you're doing fine up until this point:

A = D (8 - d/2 - ((pi * d)/4)) + (pi (d/2)^2)/2)

Which should simplify into

<br /> <br /> A = 8*D - \frac{D^2}{2} - \frac{pi*D^2}{4} + \frac{pi*D^2}{8}<br />

You would then go on to take the derivate and then set it to zero and solve for your D value

I've been beaten =(

sorry, that was a typing error as well haha.

A = L * D + (pi*d)/2
which becomes

A = 8 - d/2 - ((pi * d)/4)

this still doesn't work...I think I'm using the wrong equations somehow
 
Why isn't there a D in all of the terms of A? I think you understand this problem perfectly well and you are using the right equations. You are simply making typographical mistakes right and left. Get a clean sheet of paper, calm down and take a stress pill and you can do this.
 

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