Simple Circuit with Two Sources

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The discussion revolves around a simple circuit problem involving two voltage sources and resistors, focusing on the application of Kirchhoff's Current Law (KCL) and Kirchhoff's Voltage Law (KVL).

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to apply KCL and KVL to analyze the circuit, leading to a conclusion about the current through one of the sources. Some participants question the relevance of the right-side source based on the circuit configuration.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring the implications of the circuit setup, with some suggesting that the right-side source may not affect the circuit as drawn. There is a recognition of the potential for different outcomes if additional components were introduced.

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There is a discussion about whether the right-side source could be disregarded from the outset, indicating a consideration of assumptions made during the analysis.

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Homework Equations


KCL and KVL

The Attempt at a Solution


The sum of the currents at the top node equals the current out through the middle
(Call ##I_1## the current from the left and ##I_2## the right)

##I_3 = I_1+I_2##

And the sum of the voltages around the loops equals 0.

##-I_3(4k)-I_1(6k) + 10V = 0##

##-I_3(4k) + 4V = 0##

The system of equations yields solutions
##I_3 = 1mA##
##I_1 = 1mA##
##I_2 = 0##

Now, it appears that either I made a mistake, or there is zero current going through the source on the right. Is it logical to conclude that the source on the right is irrelevant to the circuit?
 

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No mistake. Well, irrelevant to the circuit as drawn, yes; if other components were added it would likely come into play.
 
Could I have predicted this from the start, and crossed off the right side source, and solved for just a single source with series resistors?
 
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Could I have predicted this from the start, and crossed off the right side source, and solved for just a single source with series resistors?
That's difficult to say.

You might have noticed that removing the right side source & leaving that branch open would give a simple series circuit with the voltage across the 4kΩ resistor being 4 Volts.

That's not something one would normally look for.

Hindsight is wonderful.
 

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