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The discussion revolves around formulating a differential equation for the volume of a spherical raindrop that evaporates at a rate proportional to its surface area. Participants are exploring the relationship between volume and surface area in the context of differential equations.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants attempt to derive the differential equation from the relationship between volume and surface area, questioning how the rate of change of volume relates to surface area. They discuss the meaning of proportionality and the introduction of a constant k.

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There is an ongoing exploration of how to express surface area in terms of volume and the implications of this for the differential equation. Some participants have provided insights into eliminating the radius variable and expressing the equation solely in terms of volume.

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Participants note that the problem does not explicitly state the constant of proportionality, leading to questions about its necessity and derivation. The discussion includes attempts to clarify the mathematical relationships involved.

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Homework Statement


A spherical raindrop evaporates at a rate proportional to its surface area. Write a differential equation for the volume of the raindrop as a function of time.


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The Attempt at a Solution


The answer is dV/dt = -kV^(2/3), for some k > 0.

I don't really understand this answer. The question states the volume changes at a rate proportional to its surface area (A = 4*pi*r^2), but it seems from the answer it depends on volume V. Can someone help me understand how to get to this answer? And how do I know there is a constant k in there too? The problem never states it.. am I just supposed to know this somehow?

Thanks!
 
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DWill said:

Homework Statement


A spherical raindrop evaporates at a rate proportional to its surface area. Write a differential equation for the volume of the raindrop as a function of time.

The Attempt at a Solution


The answer is dV/dt = -kV^(2/3), for some k > 0.

I don't really understand this answer. The question states the volume changes at a rate proportional to its surface area (A = 4*pi*r^2), but it seems from the answer it depends on volume V. Can someone help me understand how to get to this answer? And how do I know there is a constant k in there too? The problem never states it.. am I just supposed to know this somehow?

Thanks!

I've bolded the key phrases in the question.

To see where 'k' comes from, you need to understand what 'proportional to' means. For example, if I tell you 'y' is proportional to 'x', it could mean that y=2x or y=-7489327x or y=\sqrt{\pi}x; you don't know what the constant of proportionality is (unless otherwise told), so you usually just call it k (or some other letter) so that y=kx

The next key phrase tells you that you should try to express the surface area of the sphere (and the entire differential equation!) in terms of the volume, not the radius.

So, if A=4\pi r^2 and V=\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3, then A in terms of V is____?
 
Thanks for the reply
Hm, then V = (1/3)*r*A, right? or A = 3V/r

where do you go from there?
 
If the volume changes with time, then so does the radius. So to make a DE that involves only the Volume (and constants) you should eliminate 'r'.

If V=\frac{4}{3}\pi r^3, then r=___? So A=___?
 
r = (3V / 4pi)^(1/3), and A = 4*pi*(3V / 4pi)^(2/3) ?
 
Yup, and since the volume decreases proportional to the surface area, you also know that

\frac{dV}{dt}=-kA for some unknown, positive k (the negative sign and the restriction on k guarantees that the drop loses volume instead of gaining it.

So...dV/dt in terms of volume is?
 
OK so I see where the V^(2/3) comes from now, does that mean the rest of the numbers (constants) before it are included in the proportionality constant k?
 
Yup, exactly :smile:
 

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