Equilibrium Problem: Solving for Unknown Forces with Newton's Laws

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The discussion focuses on solving an equilibrium problem using Newton's laws, specifically addressing forces and acceleration. The key point is that for an object to decelerate, a net upward force must be applied, which must exceed the gravitational force acting on the object. It is clarified that the upward force must not only counteract the weight but also provide additional acceleration, effectively doubling the force needed. For example, a 500N weight requires an upward force of 1000N to achieve an upward acceleration of 10 m/s². Understanding these dynamics is crucial for correctly applying Newton's laws in equilibrium problems.
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Homework Statement


[PLAIN]http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8828/capage1.jpg

Homework Equations



F = ma
Sum of moments about a point = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt can be seen above. The only part which I seem to have a problem with is part f. In order for there to be a deceleration there must be a nett force acting upwards.

Therefore I figure that part a force would remain the same as the mass hasn't changed.

part b force would also remain the same

and part c force would increase so as to produce the decelleration? f=ma so the nett force would need to be f = 600N, therefore it would increase by 600N?
 
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tim51 said:

Homework Statement


[PLAIN]http://img651.imageshack.us/img651/8828/capage1.jpg


Homework Equations



F = ma
Sum of moments about a point = 0

The Attempt at a Solution



My attempt can be seen above. The only part which I seem to have a problem with is part f. In order for there to be a deceleration there must be a nett force acting upwards.

Therefore I figure that part a force would remain the same as the mass hasn't changed.

part b force would also remain the same

and part c force would increase so as to produce the decelleration? f=ma so the nett force would need to be f = 600N, therefore it would increase by 600N?

No. Part A force has to not only match the weight, but in addition provide an upward acceleration. since that acceleration is equal in magnitude to the acceleration due to gravity when an object is dropped, the force will be twice the size.

ie: for a 500N person, the upward force of 500N means they don't move [as when you are standing there.
An upward force of 1000N is needed to get an upward acceleration of 10 ms-2.

think: downward force 500N [gravity] upward force 1000N applied force. Net force 500N up.

while the person was falling, the 500N downward force was providing an acceleration of 10 ms-2 down - like all things that fall.

The net force of 500N up will provide an acceleration of 10 ms-2 up, as required.
 
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The book claims the answer is that all the magnitudes are the same because "the gravitational force on the penguin is the same". I'm having trouble understanding this. I thought the buoyant force was equal to the weight of the fluid displaced. Weight depends on mass which depends on density. Therefore, due to the differing densities the buoyant force will be different in each case? Is this incorrect?

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