Simple Harmonic Motion acceleration problem

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The discussion revolves around a problem related to simple harmonic motion, specifically analyzing the motion of a sewing machine needle. The problem involves determining the acceleration at a specific time and formulating equations for position, velocity, and acceleration as functions of time.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the initial conditions of position and velocity at time t=0, questioning how these values were determined. There are attempts to derive the amplitude and phase offset from the given equations of motion.

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Some participants are exploring different interpretations of the initial conditions and the equations provided. There is an ongoing examination of the phase offset calculation and its implications, with no clear consensus reached on the values derived or methods used.

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Participants mention constraints such as reliance on specific formulas and the impact of missing tools (like a calculator) on their ability to solve the problems. There is also a note about the potential confusion regarding the units of measurement (degrees vs. radians) in the calculations.

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This is a problem right out of the book. My professor worked it out in class but now that I look over it I'm not sure why he chose the method he did. This is the problem exactly as it is stated in the book:
The point of the needeld of a sewing machine moves in simple harmonic motion along the x-axis with a frequency of 2.5Hz. At t=0 its position and velocity components are +1.1cm and -15cm/s.
a) Find the acceleration component of the needle at t=0
b) Write equations giving the position, velocity, and acceleration components of the point as a function of time
From this I was able to derive several other components that will be very helpful for solving this problem. Here are the givens:

f=2.5Hz
T=.4sec
w=15.71rad/sec

Problem #1
Now, I get confused in several places. First, my professor states that as a given Xi=+1.1cm and Vi=-15cm/s. Can someone explain to me [in words] how he took the position at t=0 and assumed them values of Xi and Vi?
Problem #2
We were given these three formulas:
{keep in mind 'o' is phase offset or "phi"}
x(t) = A*Cos(wt+o)
v(t)=A*w*Sin(wt+o)
a(t)=A*w^2*Cos(wt+o)

Now from this my professor said this: a = -w^2*X => ai = -w^2*Xi -this ends up being -2.71 m/s^2
Problem #3
He continued to find "phi" or the phase offset. Here is what he did: arctan(Vi/WXi). This equation is right out of the book, and so far I have only seen it in this exact form. I understand how it was derived, but will it ever be needed in a different form?
Thanks guys!
 
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Xi and Vi are just the initial positions and velocities, initial would be at time t=0.
In 2 I think that he used the position equation -x(t)- to find the A and then used the acceleration as function of time equation and set the time to 0 and the A to what he found from the x(t) equation.
 
NutriGrainKiller said:
Problem #1
Now, I get confused in several places. First, my professor states that as a given Xi=+1.1cm and Vi=-15cm/s. Can someone explain to me [in words] how he took the position at t=0 and assumed them values of Xi and Vi?
The rotating object was just caught at these specific conditions with the stopwatch. That is when the stopwatch was started the object were at this position with this velocity. Remember that the object is oscillating to and fro along the x-axis.
 
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daniel_i_l said:
Xi and Vi are just the initial positions and velocities, initial would be at time t=0.
In 2 I think that he used the position equation -x(t)- to find the A and then used the acceleration as function of time equation and set the time to 0 and the A to what he found from the x(t) equation.

for the first one i misread the problem, turns out i was more tired than i thought last night heh.

my calculator currently is not working, it got very wet on the way to class..so I cannot solve these problems. but here is the work for the second one:

I took x(t) equation and plugged in the values and solved for A, which ended up being 1.1/Cos(15.71*.4). Let's assume this value is stored into 'A'

took the a(x) equation and solved: a(x)=A*16.71^2*Cos(15.71*.4)

is this right?
 
NutriGrainKiller said:
Problem #2
We were given these three formulas:
{keep in mind 'o' is phase offset or "phi"}
x(t) = A*Cos(wt+o)
v(t)=A*w*Sin(wt+o)
a(t)=A*w^2*Cos(wt+o)
The last two equations should both have a negative sign after the = symbol (the derivative of cos is -sin). If one sets the time t=0 in the first two one gets
[tex]x_i=A\cos(\phi)[/tex]
and
[tex]v_i=-A\omega\sin(\phi)[/tex]
by dividing the second equation by the first we arrive at
[tex]\phi=\arctan(\frac{-v_i}{x_i\omega})[/tex]
from which the phase offset can be calculated, which I do not get the same as you (15.71*.4). How did you arrive at these values? Is it in degrees or radians?
 

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