Simple Harmonic Oscillator: Calculating Particle Position as a Function of Time

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The problem involves a particle suspended from a spring, requiring the calculation of its position as a function of time under the influence of gravity and spring forces. The context is within the realm of simple harmonic motion.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to derive the position function using the equations of motion for a simple harmonic oscillator, while also considering the forces acting on the mass. Some participants question the correctness of the derived expression and seek clarification on the alternative solution found in a manual.

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Participants are engaged in verifying the original poster's calculations and discussing the validity of different answers. There is a recognition of the need to analyze initial conditions and the implications of the chosen coordinate system.

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There is mention of a discrepancy between the original poster's solution and an alternative answer from a solutions manual, leading to discussions about the assumptions made regarding the direction of displacement.

Je m'appelle
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I need someone to please verify my work.

Homework Statement



A particle of mass [tex]m[/tex] is suspended from the ceiling by a spring of constant [tex]k[/tex] and initially relaxed length [tex]l_0[/tex]. The particle is then let go from rest with the spring initially relaxed. Taking the z-axis as vertically oriented downwards with it's origin in the ceiling, calculate the position 'z' of the particle as a function of time 't'.

Homework Equations



SHO equation:

[tex]m\ddot{x}(t) = -kx(t)[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



In this case, the acting forces on the mass are the weight directed downwards and the elastic force of the spring directed upwards, so

[tex]m\ddot{x}(t) = mg - kx(t)[/tex]

[tex]\ddot{x}(t) = g - \omega^2 x(t)[/tex]

[tex]\ddot{x}(t) + \omega^2 x(t) = g[/tex]

It's important to note that I'm assuming 'x' as the displacement of the spring and NOT the displacement of the mass.

[tex]\ddot{x}(t) + \omega^2 x(t) = g[/tex]

[tex]x(t) = x_p(t) + x_h(t)[/tex]

The homogeneous solution will be

[tex]x_h(t) = acos(\omega t) + bsin(\omega t)[/tex]

And the particular solution will be

[tex]x_p(t) = \frac{g}{\omega^2}[/tex]

By using the initial conditions [tex]x(0) = 0, \dot{x}(0) = 0[/tex] we get

[tex]x(0) = 0 = a + \frac{g}{\omega^2}[/tex]

[tex]a = - \frac{g}{\omega^2}[/tex]

[tex]\dot{x}(0) = 0 = b\omega,\ b = 0[/tex]

So by rearranging we get to

[tex]x(t) = -\frac{g}{\omega^2}cos(\omega t) + \frac{g}{\omega^2}[/tex]

But notice that this is the displacement of the spring and not of the mass, in order to find the displacement of the mass we would have to add the initial length of the relaxed spring, that is, [tex]l_0[/tex].

So the final answer for the displacement of the mass in the z-axis will be

[tex]z(t) = l_0 - \frac{mg}{k} (cos(\sqrt{\frac{k}{m}} t) - 1)[/tex]

Could someone please verify this, as there is a different answer in a solution manual I found, and I'm not so sure which one is correct.
 
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Hm, it seems reasonable to me. What's the other answer you found?
 
diazona said:
Hm, it seems reasonable to me. What's the other answer you found?

Well, I think it is correct after all.

I had two solutions, mine and a friend's which he claimed to have obtained from a solutions manual, but I think that wasn't the case.

I'm sure now that the answer I've provided here is the correct one, as I've analyzed the case when [tex]t = 0[/tex], that is when the system is at rest, the displacement of the mass is simply the length of the relaxed spring which is reasonable.

Thanks anyway diazona
 
Ah. Clearly the real lesson of this problem is that you should never trust your friends :-p (just kidding of course)
 
Je m'appelle said:
Well, I think it is correct after all.

I had two solutions, mine and a friend's which he claimed to have obtained from a solutions manual, but I think that wasn't the case.

I'm sure now that the answer I've provided here is the correct one, as I've analyzed the case when [tex]t = 0[/tex], that is when the system is at rest, the displacement of the mass is simply the length of the relaxed spring which is reasonable.

Thanks anyway diazona

Are you sure it is not -l0,which direction are you taking it positive?
 
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