Simple Inequality with Modulus Question

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The discussion revolves around determining the value of m in the inequality |x-10|<{1}/{m} given that its final form is |x^{2}+{4}x-140|<1. The problem involves concepts related to absolute values and inequalities.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the relationship between |x-10| and |x^{2}+{4}x-140|, questioning the validity of omitting terms and the implications of m potentially being negative. There are discussions about squaring both sides of the inequality and ensuring m is non-negative.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, suggesting various forms for m and questioning the assumptions made about its sign. There is a focus on ensuring that m remains non-negative, and some guidance has been provided regarding the implications of the absolute value in the context of the inequality.

Contextual Notes

There is an ongoing consideration of the constraints on m, particularly regarding its sign, as well as the implications of the original inequality setup.

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Homework Statement



Determine m :

[itex]|x-10|<{1}/{m}[/itex]

if its final form is :

[itex]|x^{2}+{4}x-140|<1[/itex]

Homework Equations



To remove the modulus, square them...

The Attempt at a Solution



I have tried to assume that if

[itex]|x-10|{m}<{1}[/itex]

then, I can find

[itex]|x-10|{m}=|x^{2}+{4}x-140|[/itex]

[itex]|x-10|{m}=|(x+14)(x-10)|[/itex]

but, can I omit (x-10)?
 
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kuskus94 said:
[itex]|x-10|{m}<{1}[/itex]
You can't do that because m might be negative for some x. Try the squaring hint.
[itex]|x-10|{m}=|x^{2}+{4}x-140|[/itex]
[itex]|x-10|{m}=|(x+4)(x-10)|[/itex]
There's an error in that step.
 
haruspex said:
You can't do that because m might be negative for some x. Try the squaring hint.

There's an error in that step.

Okay, sorry it should be

[itex]|x-10|{m}=|(x+14)(x-10)|[/itex]

So, if I do this :

[itex](x-10)^2{m}^2=((x+14)(x-10))^2[/itex]

is it possible?
 
kuskus94 said:
it should be

[itex]|x-10|{m}=|(x+14)(x-10)|[/itex]
Not quite. Should be [itex]|x-10||m|=|(x+14)(x-10)|[/itex]
But if you go back to |x−10|<1/m you can observe that m is necessarily non-negative, which simplifies the logic.
[itex](x-10)^2{m}^2=((x+14)(x-10))^2[/itex]
So what form should m take to make that guaranteed, and ensure m non-negative?
 
haruspex said:
Not quite. Should be [itex]|x-10||m|=|(x+14)(x-10)|[/itex]
But if you go back to |x−10|<1/m you can observe that m is necessarily non-negative, which simplifies the logic.

So what form should m take to make that guaranteed, and ensure m non-negative?

because [itex]|m|=\frac{|(x+14)(x-10)|}{|(x-10)|}[/itex], is it [itex]|m|=|(x+14)|[/itex] ?
 
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kuskus94 said:
because [itex]|m|=\frac{|(x+14)(x-10)|}{|(x-10)|}[/itex], is it [itex]|m|=|(x+14)|[/itex] ?
Almost. If m were negative, would it satisfy the requirements?
 
haruspex said:
Almost. If m were negative, would it satisfy the requirements?

Hmmm... so, I need to add [tex]m>0[/tex] to the equation or something like that.

[tex]m=|x+14|; m>0[/tex]?
 
kuskus94 said:
Hmmm... so, I need to add [tex]m>0[/tex] to the equation or something like that.

[tex]m=|x+14|; m>0[/tex]?
Yes, except that you don't now need to specify m >= 0. It follows from m=|x+14|.
 
haruspex said:
Yes, except that you don't now need to specify m >= 0. It follows from m=|x+14|.

So, the final answer is [tex]m=|x+14|[/tex]?

I am still in doubt. :confused:
 
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kuskus94 said:
So, the final answer is [tex]m=|x+14|[/tex]?

I am still in doubt. :confused:
Looks right to me. Did you try plugging it into the original inequality?
 

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