Simplifying Integration by Substitution

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The discussion focuses on solving the integral ∫ from 1 to 5 of (3x/√(2x-1))dx using the substitution u² = 2x - 1. Participants explore rearranging u in terms of x and derive expressions for dx, emphasizing the importance of using udu = dx for simplification. There is confusion regarding the correct form of x and the simplification of the integral, particularly the fraction involving u. Ultimately, the conversation highlights the need for careful manipulation of expressions and the importance of clarity in substitution methods.
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Homework Statement


Using the substitution u² = 2x - 1, or otherwise, find the exact value of
\int^{5}_{1} \frac{3x}{\sqrt{2x-1}}dx

The Attempt at a Solution



Right let's rearrange u in terms of x (i think that's how you say it):

x = \frac{u^{2} - 1}{2}And now get an expression for dx

u = (2x-1)^{\frac{1}{2}}

use the chain rule on it to give

\frac{dx}{du} (2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}

= dx = \frac{du}{(2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}}
Right now substitute that in

\int^{5}_{1} \frac{3\frac{u^{2} - 1}{2}}{u}\frac{du}{(2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}}

now according to the mark scheme

\int^{5}_{1} \frac{3\frac{u^{2} - 1}{2}}{u}\frac{du}{(2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}}

can be simplified

\int^{5}_{1} \frac{3u^{2} - 3}{2u}\frac{du}{(2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}}

shouldn't the bit here:

\frac{3u^{2} - 3}{2u}

be

\frac{3u^{2} - 3}{6u}
 
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thomas49th said:
Right let's rearrange u in terms of x (i think that's how you say it):

x = \frac{u^{2} - 1}{2}

Should be...

x = \frac{u^{2} + 1}{2}

Shouldn't it?

I managed to get the integral with 2u on the bottom and looking the same, but let me know how you're making out.
 
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woops my bad i did 3 x EVERYTHING On the fraction (including the denominator). didn;t really have my brain in gear

sorry

cheers tho :)
 
Haha no worries, least you found out where you went wrong
 
thomas49th said:

Homework Statement


Using the substitution u² = 2x - 1, or otherwise, find the exact value of
\int^{5}_{1} \frac{3x}{\sqrt{2x-1}}dx

The Attempt at a Solution



Right let's rearrange u in terms of x (i think that's how you say it):

x = \frac{u^{2} - 1}{2}


And now get an expression for dx

u = (2x-1)^{\frac{1}{2}}
It's much simpler not to rearrange u in terms of x (or "solve for x"). Instead, from u2= 2x- 1, 2udu= 2dx so udu= dx.

use the chain rule on it to give

\frac{dx}{du} (2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}

= dx = \frac{du}{(2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}}



Right now substitute that in

\int^{5}_{1} \frac{3\frac{u^{2} - 1}{2}}{u}\frac{du}{(2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}}

now according to the mark scheme

\int^{5}_{1} \frac{3\frac{u^{2} - 1}{2}}{u}\frac{du}{(2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}}

can be simplified

\int^{5}_{1} \frac{3u^{2} - 3}{2u}\frac{du}{(2x-1)^{-\frac{1}{2}}}

shouldn't the bit here:

\frac{3u^{2} - 3}{2u}

be

\frac{3u^{2} - 3}{6u}
 
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