Single slit diffraction bright fringe's width

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the width of bright fringes in single slit diffraction patterns, exploring the relationship between fringe width and order of diffraction. Participants examine theoretical predictions, experimental observations, and conflicting information from external sources.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • One participant presents a formula for the position of dark fringes and concludes that the distance between successive dark fringes increases with order, suggesting that bright fringes also increase in width.
  • Another participant suggests using the paraxial approximation and encourages testing with specific values to clarify the situation.
  • A participant mentions measuring the width of bright fringes with a photometer and expresses confusion due to conflicting information from a referenced website.
  • One participant argues that the ideal single-slit diffraction pattern should show equally spaced maxima, with deviations leading to increased spacing for higher order maxima.
  • Another participant challenges the interpretation of data from a referenced photo, suggesting that the spacing between maxima remains constant and that the narrowing of fringes may be an optical illusion.
  • One participant acknowledges the perception of increasing separation in the data but concedes it might be an illusion.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the relationship between fringe width and order, with some supporting the idea that bright fringes increase in width while others argue that they become narrower. The discussion remains unresolved with multiple competing interpretations present.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference external sources that provide conflicting information, and there are indications of uncertainty regarding the interpretation of experimental data and theoretical models.

Koveras00
Messages
21
Reaction score
0
According to my knowledge, the position of the dark fringes is given by

asin(x)=m*lamda (sorry, I do not know how to type equations in here)

tan(x)=d/L

a=slit width
x=angle of diffraction(?)
m=no. of order
d=distance from the central fringe
L=distance between slit and screen

By using is equation, I found out that the distance between successive dark fringes is increasing as the order increase. Which means that the width of the bright fringes increase with the order.

But, from this webpage (last section), http://dev.physicslab.org/Document....me=PhysicalOptics_InterferenceDiffraction.xml

Quote:
"In a diffraction pattern, the central maximum has the greatest brightness, with each successive bright fringe getting narrower and dimmer."

Which says the opposite. Tried searching the web and this forum but couldn't find any info.

Please advice. Thank you. :smile:
 
Science news on Phys.org
It's the paraxial approximation you should search for.

If you have trouble still, since you haven't actually seen the pattern yourself, try putting reasonable values into your equation (10 metres, 500 nanometres, 1st through to 10th orders, 50 micrometres), and then tell us again whether you still find any contradiction.

..not quite sure what the webpage you quoted actually meant.
 
Last edited:
I tried plugging in values in the equation, that is how I found out that the separation of successive dark fringes increases as the order increases. Bright fringes exist between the minimas hence the width of the bright fringes decreases too.

I have also seen and tried measure the width of the bright fringe using a photometer.

All points towards that the width of the bright fringes will increases when the order increases.

But after bumping into the website that I have quoted, I begin to doubt my understanding of single slit diffraction and my experiment. Therefore posting this thread. The picture in the website also show that the separation of dark fringes decreases.

Sorry if I could not explain myself well.
 
Give the numbers you calculated (to better facilitate us pointing out the insignificance of the variation). Remember to use the correct number of significant figures (the data I specified has but 1 or 2).
 
I think the site is wrong - the ideal single-slit diffraction pattern is a sinc^2 pattern, which means that ideally at least, all the maxima should be spaced equally far apart. Deviation from the ideal case should result in higher order maxima being spaced further apart (as the paraxial approximation becomes less suitable for higher order maxima).

Take a look at the photo here of the diffraction of an x-ray wave by a single rectangular slit;

http://www.elettra.trieste.it/science/elettranews/volume46/en110.html

Clearly the spacing of each maxima is uniform across the first 7-8 orders, at higher orders the increase in separation is also evident.

Claude.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
Claude Bile said:
Take a look at the photo here [..] at higher orders the increase in separation is also evident.
I disagree with that interpretation of your data. It appears to me to demonstrate that separation between successive maxima (or minima) remains constant (at least within the precision of the image). It also demonstrates each successive fringe appearing narrower, as per the website quote (although I suspect this effect is mainly to do with the perception of brightness gradients).
 
Last edited:
To me, the separation appears to increase for the vertical set of fringes at the top of the image, but I concede that it might just be an illusion.

Claude.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
3K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
9K
  • · Replies 17 ·
Replies
17
Views
3K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
4K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
5K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
2K
  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
3K