Single Var Calculus - Volumes of Revolution

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The discussion revolves around the calculation of volumes of revolution in single variable calculus, specifically focusing on the curves defined by y = 6, x = 0, and y = x² + 2. Participants are tasked with finding the volume of the solid formed by revolving the bounded area around the y-axis.

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  • The original poster attempts to determine the correct radius for the solid of revolution and expresses uncertainty about their calculations. Some participants question the clarity of the mathematical expressions used and suggest that careful notation is important. Others discuss the implications of symmetry in the problem and the relevance of the radius in the context of the disk method.

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There is a mix of attempts to clarify mathematical notation and reasoning about the radius selection. Some participants provide guidance on how to approach the problem and affirm the correctness of the original poster's final volume calculation, while also emphasizing the importance of clear communication in mathematical writing.

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Participants note issues with punctuation and notation that may lead to confusion in interpreting the problem. There is an emphasis on the need for precision in mathematical expressions, particularly when discussing integrals and volume calculations.

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Single Var Calculus -- Volumes of Revolution

consider the curves y = 6 x = 0 and y = x2+2

Revolve the bound area around the y-axis and find the volume of the product solid.

Here's what I did.


r = x = (y - 2)1/2

V = pi * INTEGRAL from y = 2 -> y = 6 of r2 dy = y - 2 dy = y2/2 - 2y from 6 - > 2 = 8pi


All of my calculations are correct, but I am not sure if i selected the radius of the solid correctly. This is why i chose to do this problem -- I need to get better at figuring out what the radius of the solid will be.

Did I choose it correctly? If not, what is correct, and is there any good way to check yourself to see if you did indeed chose your radius correctly?
 
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anonymity said:
r = x = (y - 2)1/2

V = pi * INTEGRAL from y = 2 -> y = 6 of r2 dy = y - 2 dy = y2/2 - 2y from 6 - > 2 = 8pi

I think you're on the right track but I am confused by what you are doing here. The way you typed the equation is unclear.
 


anonymity said:
consider the curves y = 6 x = 0 and y = x2+2
Your lack of punctuation confused me for a moment! I was trying to figure out what "y= 6x= 0" could mean! Of course, you mean y= 6, x= 0, and y= x^2+ 2.

Revolve the bound area around the y-axis and find the volume of the product solid.

Here's what I did.


r = x = (y - 2)1/2
Okay, at each z, the x- coordinate on the boundary is x= (y- 2)^{1/2} and that is the radius of the disk that revolving around the y-axis produces. The area of such a disk is A= \pi r^2= \pi (y- 2).

V = pi * INTEGRAL from y = 2 -> y = 6 of r2 dy = y - 2 dy = y2/2 - 2y from 6 - > 2 = 8pi
You need to learn to write mathematics more carefully- don't use "= " between things that are not equal: in particular, "\pi\int_2^6 y- 2 dy" is NOT equal to "y- 2 dy"!

What you mean is that the volume is given by
\pi \int_2^6 y- 2 dy= \pi(\frac{1}{2}y^2- 2y)right|_2^6= \pi\left[\left(\frac{1}{2}(36)- 2(6)\right)- \left(\frac{1}{2}(4)- 2(2)\right)\right]= 8\pi[/itex]<br /> so, yes, your final answer is correct. <br /> <br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> All of my calculations are correct, but I am not sure if i selected the radius of the solid correctly. This is why i chose to do this problem -- I need to get better at figuring out what the radius of the solid will be. </div> </div> </blockquote> Since you are rotating around the y- axis, the radius (for the disk method) is perpendicular to the y-axis and so parallel to the x-axis. Since one end of a radius is at the y-axis, the other end is on the graph and the length of the radius is the x-value of that point: from y= x^2+ 2, y- 2= x^2 and x= \pm (y- 2)^{1/2}. The graph of y= x^2+ 2 is symmetric around the y-axis so it does not matter whether you use (y- 2)^{1/2} or -(y- 2)^{1/2} as r (and, specifically, you will be squaring r so it is really x^2= y- 2 you need.<br /> <br /> <blockquote data-attributes="" data-quote="" data-source="" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Did I choose it correctly? If not, what is correct, and is there any good way to check yourself to see if you did indeed chose your radius correctly? </div> </div> </blockquote> Yes, what you did was correct. As for &quot;checking&quot;, just think logically and do a lot of these to gain confidence in yourself.
 


HallsofIvy said:
Your lack of punctuation confused me for a moment! I was trying to figure out what "y= 6x= 0" could mean! Of course, you mean y= 6, x= 0, and y= x^2+ 2.


Okay, at each z, the x- coordinate on the boundary is x= (y- 2)^{1/2} and that is the radius of the disk that revolving around the y-axis produces. The area of such a disk is A= \pi r^2= \pi (y- 2).


You need to learn to write mathematics more carefully- don't use "= " between things that are not equal: in particular, "\pi\int_2^6 y- 2 dy" is NOT equal to "y- 2 dy"!

What you mean is that the volume is given by
\pi \int_2^6 y- 2 dy= \pi(\frac{1}{2}y^2- 2y)right|_2^6= \pi\left[\left(\frac{1}{2}(36)- 2(6)\right)- \left(\frac{1}{2}(4)- 2(2)\right)\right]= 8\pi[/itex]<br /> so, yes, your final answer is correct. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Since you are rotating around the y- axis, the radius (for the disk method) is perpendicular to the y-axis and so parallel to the x-axis. Since one end of a radius is at the y-axis, the other end is on the graph and the length of the radius is the x-value of that point: from y= x^2+ 2, y- 2= x^2 and x= \pm (y- 2)^{1/2}. The graph of y= x^2+ 2 is symmetric around the y-axis so it does not matter whether you use (y- 2)^{1/2} or -(y- 2)^{1/2} as r (and, specifically, you will be squaring r so it is really x^2= y- 2 you need.<br /> <br /> <br /> Yes, what you did was correct. As for &quot;checking&quot;, just think logically and do a lot of these to gain confidence in yourself.
<br /> <br /> <br /> Thanks for your answer; and sorry for my sporadic and informal approach. I tried to do it correctly with latex but I just couldn&#039;t get it to work right.
 

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