Singular 3x3 Matrix: Solving & Understanding

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The discussion revolves around understanding the properties of determinants and singular matrices, particularly focusing on the implications of row operations on the determinant's value and the consistency of the system of equations represented by the matrix.

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  • Participants explore the effects of row operations on determinants, questioning how these operations influence the values of the rows and the overall determinant. There is a focus on understanding why certain operations, like replacing a row with the sum of itself and another row, are performed and their implications for the system of equations.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights into the reasoning behind row operations and their effects on the determinant. Some participants express confusion regarding specific operations, while others offer clarifications and examples to illustrate the concepts being discussed.

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There is an emphasis on the distinction between the determinant being zero and the implications for the solutions of the system, with references to specific outcomes like inconsistency and the nature of solutions (zero or infinitely many).

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The problem and the statement are attached. I found the solution as shown in the attached files but I don't understand why in the solutions they added R1 and R3 to get a row equivalent to R1. Problem is Q4.
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In the solution, they are taking the determinant to see if the matrix is singular. One of the three row operations you can do on determinants is replacing a row by the sum of itself and another row. The other two row operations are switching two rows, and replacing a row by a multiple of itself.
The reason they replaced R1 by R1 + R3 was to get a zero entry in the first row, which makes finding the determinant easier.
 
Mark44 said:
In the solution, they are taking the determinant to see if the matrix is singular. One of the three row operations you can do on determinants is replacing a row by the sum of itself and another row. The other two row operations are switching two rows, and replacing a row by a multiple of itself.
The reason they replaced R1 by R1 + R3 was to get a zero entry in the first row, which makes finding the determinant easier.

But won't that change the value of R1 which will be equal to 3 instead of 2.
 
Seneka said:
But won't that change the value of R1 which will be equal to 3 instead of 2.

Yes. The two equations combined to give an equation which now says 0 = 3, with a right hand side of 3.

The right-hand side doesn't matter in deciding if the determinant is 0, but it does matter if determining whether the system has zero or infinitely many solutions. 0 = 3 is a contradiction, so this system is inconsistent, no solutions. If you got 0 = 0 would be true for all x, y, z.
 
Thanks @RPinPA @Mark44

I was more confused as to why row switching worked. A nice explanation I found was by looking at what the determinant does. By looking at a simple two by two the determinant will give you an area of a parallelogram. When you add a row to another one that creates a parallelogram with the same area and therefore doesn't change the value of the determinant.
 

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