Sink or float, high density low pressure VS low density high pressure

Click For Summary
SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the relationship between density and buoyancy in fluids, specifically addressing whether high pressure can enable low-density fluids to float high-density objects. It is established that while pressure increases with depth in the ocean, it does not significantly alter the density of the fluid. Instead, increased pressure compresses objects, raising their density and causing them to sink. Ultimately, density remains the critical factor in determining whether an object will float or sink, regardless of pressure conditions.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of basic fluid dynamics principles
  • Knowledge of density and buoyancy concepts
  • Familiarity with the effects of pressure on materials
  • Basic physics of gases and liquids under varying conditions
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the effects of pressure on the density of gases and liquids
  • Explore the principles of buoyancy in different fluid mediums
  • Study the compressibility of various materials under high pressure
  • Investigate real-world applications of buoyancy in deep-sea environments
USEFUL FOR

This discussion is beneficial for students of physics, marine scientists, and engineers involved in underwater exploration or design, as well as anyone interested in the principles of buoyancy and fluid dynamics.

Albertgauss
Gold Member
Messages
294
Reaction score
37
Normally, an object with a high density will sink in a fluid with low density. What if, as depth increases, as in the case of the ocean, the pressure really gets cranked up -> Is it possible for a low-density, high-pressure fluid to float a high-density object, that, under normal conditions would sink in the low-density fluid?

The ocean is a perfect example. Though its density doesn't change much with depth, its pressure gets huge by the time you get to the bottom of the seafloor. At the the surface of the ocean, anything with more density than seawater sinks, but could such an increase in pressure cause a normally sinking object to float in deep ocean depths before it hits the sea floor? Can high pressure, alone, cause things to float? Or will, density always rule, no matter the pressure, in determining whether an object sinks or floats in any medium?
 
Physics news on Phys.org
The pressure doesn't matter. It's whether or not the density of the liquid increases to the point that it surpasses the object.
 
Albertgauss said:
Normally, an object with a high density will sink in a fluid with low density. What if, as depth increases, as in the case of the ocean, the pressure really gets cranked up -> Is it possible for a low-density, high-pressure fluid to float a high-density object, that, under normal conditions would sink in the low-density fluid?

If anything, it's the other way around. Liquids don't generally compress, so the density of the fluid doesn't increase much with increasing depth and pressure, hence no increase in buoyancy with depth. However, the increase in pressure can compress the object, increasing its density and therefore making it more likely to sink.

For example: Most people, if their lungs are full of air, will float to the surface from a depth of three meters under water. At a depth of 100 meters, the higher pressure compresses the chest cavity and the lungs enough that the overall density becomes greater than that of water, and the human body sinks even with full lungs.
 
Density is the only important factor, sorry, it is definitely not possible to have dense objects float in less dense ones.
 
I got it everyone. Thanks for your help. I think I kind of knew, but one can always hope for surprises.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 4 ·
Replies
4
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
Replies
4
Views
3K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
4K
  • · Replies 20 ·
Replies
20
Views
3K
  • · Replies 55 ·
2
Replies
55
Views
9K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
10K
Replies
11
Views
3K
  • · Replies 3 ·
Replies
3
Views
3K