Sketching a graph from a function

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The problem involves modeling the path of a baseball using the function d(t) = -t² + 8t + 1, where d(t) represents the height of the ball in meters and t represents time in seconds. Participants are tasked with sketching the graph of this function between 0 and 9 seconds and determining the speed of the ball when it hits the ground.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the method of creating a table of values for plotting points on the graph. Some express confusion about the function type and how to approach sketching it. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of speed and whether it refers to vertical speed or instantaneous speed.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered guidance on evaluating the function at specific points and clarifying the difference between solving and evaluating. There is an ongoing exploration of how to determine when the ball hits the ground and the appropriate method for finding instantaneous speed, including the use of derivatives.

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Participants are navigating initial calculus concepts, and there is a mention of homework rules requiring them to show their attempts. The discussion reflects uncertainty about the specifics of the speed calculation and the graphing process.

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Homework Statement


The path of a baseball relative to the ground can be modeled by the function d(t)=-t2+8t+1 where d(t) represents the height of the ball in meters, and t represents time in seconds.

a. Sketch a grpah of the function between 0 and 9 seconds.
b. What is the speed of the ball when it hits the ground?

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The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea how to do this. It's in the first unit of my calculus class. I tried creating a table of values and then plotting the points but that didn't work. I also tried solving for d(0) through d(9) and then plotting the points but that gave me different answers then what others were getting. Any help on where I should start would be great, thanks.
 
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Plugging in points and connecting the dots is one way to get an idea of what the graph is doing.
Let's start with this. Do you know what type of function it is? If it were something like y= -x²+8x+1 would that be easier to sketch (rather than picking a bunch of points)?

As far as the speed of the ball, are they looking for just the vertical speed?

Oh yes, can you post a picture of your attempt?
 
Specter said:

Homework Statement


The path of a baseball relative to the ground can be modeled by the function d(t)=-t2+8t+1 where d(t) represents the height of the ball in meters, and t represents time in seconds.

a. Sketch a grpah of the function between 0 and 9 seconds.
b. What is the speed of the ball when it hits the ground?

Homework Equations

The Attempt at a Solution



I have no idea how to do this. It's in the first unit of my calculus class. I tried creating a table of values and then plotting the points but that didn't work.
Why didn't it work? There's nothing wrong with this approach. The table should have pairs of values (t, d(t)). To plot a point, the t value is along the horizontal axis, that the d(t) value is along the vertical axis.
Specter said:
I also tried solving for d(0) through d(9)
You're not "solving" for d(0) etc. -- you're evaluating the distance function at 0, 1, and so on.
Specter said:
and then plotting the points but that gave me different answers then what others were getting. Any help on where I should start would be great, thanks.
Please show us what you got. One of the rules here is that you have to show us what you've tried, not just describe what you're done in general terms.
 
scottdave said:
Plugging in points and connecting the dots is one way to get an idea of what the graph is doing.
Let's start with this. Do you know what type of function it is? If it were something like y= -x²+8x+1 would that be easier to sketch (rather than picking a bunch of points)?

As far as the speed of the ball, are they looking for just the vertical speed?

Oh yes, can you post a picture of your attempt?

Mark44 said:
Why didn't it work? There's nothing wrong with this approach. The table should have pairs of values (t, d(t)). To plot a point, the t value is along the horizontal axis, that the d(t) value is along the vertical axis.
You're not "solving" for d(0) etc. -- you're evaluating the distance function at 0, 1, and so on.

Please show us what you got. One of the rules here is that you have to show us what you've tried, not just describe what you're done in general terms.

I figured out the graphing part. I forgot to add the square on a few of them so it messed everything up. For part b, I don't know what speed they are asking for. All the question asked for was the speed of the ball when it hits the ground. Can I use v=d/t to solve that? I don't know the horizontal distance so I don't think that I can use v=d/t.

If a picture of my graph is still needed, I can upload it here.
 
Specter said:
For part b, I don't know what speed they are asking for. All the question asked for was the speed of the ball when it hits the ground. Can I use v=d/t to solve that?

No, they're looking for the instantaneous speed. You said you're in a calculus class. Possibly they have talked about velocity at this point, which would be d'(t), the derivative of the distance/displacement function.
 
Mark44 said:
No, they're looking for the instantaneous speed. You said you're in a calculus class. Possibly they have talked about velocity at this point, which would be d'(t), the derivative of the distance/displacement function.
Would I be able to use the limit formula to solve this question? I guess I would first need to determine when exactly the ball hits the ground because I need d(a) and d(a+h).
 
Specter said:
Would I be able to use the limit formula to solve this question?
Yes. That might be the only formula you have, as this is the first unit.
Specter said:
I guess I would first need to determine when exactly the ball hits the ground because I need d(a) and d(a+h).
I'm not sure what you mean here. The ball hits the ground when d(t) = 0. Solve that equation for the value of t that gives a distance of 0.
 

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