Sketching ln Graph: Tips & Advice for Solving Functions

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The discussion revolves around sketching the function y=x(lnx)^3, focusing on the challenges posed by the natural logarithm component. Participants are exploring the implications of derivatives and critical points in the context of this function.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to find the first and second derivatives of the function to identify critical points. Some participants question the accuracy of the derivative calculations and suggest revisiting the application of differentiation rules.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing hints and suggestions for reevaluating the derivative. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in the original poster's calculations, and alternative approaches are being considered, though no consensus has been reached.

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Participants are navigating the complexities introduced by the logarithmic function and are encouraged to explore different methods, including the use of software tools for graphing. There is a mention of specific values related to maximum points, but these are not confirmed.

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I have to sketch the following function:
y=x(lnx)^3

The ln scares me a bit... I have found the derivative of the function as 3(lnx)^2, and when making that equal to zero I got an anwer of around 0.7 if i remember correctly. This I guess is my critical number? Then the second derivative is 6/x(lnx). I really am not sure if I am doing this right, especially with the ln in there. Am I on the right track? What can I now do?
 
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You'd better try the first derivative again. You'll need to use both the product rule and the chain rule.
 
You are missing one term:
it should be
[..]+6*log(x)/x

yep, so you are maximum points are wrong..
you should be getting
1.0000
0.0498

ignore what the thing is.. find values when function is max, and see if f^2 is positive for x>0 ...

I would use software like "Graph: padowan.dk
and my calculator (plugging in different values)
 
emma3001 said:
y=x(lnx)^3

6/x(lnx).

Hi emma3001! :smile:

Hint: try it for cosx instead of lnx, and then adapt.

So try y=x(cos)^3, and y = 6/x(cosx). :smile:
 

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