Sliding Friction between two Plates as a function of surface roughess

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on the phenomenon of sliding friction between two plates as influenced by surface roughness. It establishes that both very rough and very finely polished surfaces exhibit increased static friction due to the nature of intermolecular forces acting over the contact area. The analysis suggests that while rough surfaces reduce contact area, finely polished surfaces enhance friction due to increased intermolecular interactions at a molecular level. The participants are seeking in-depth sources to explain this behavior, particularly focusing on the mechanics of surface interactions.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of intermolecular forces and their impact on friction
  • Familiarity with surface roughness and its measurement techniques
  • Knowledge of contact mechanics and surface interactions
  • Experience with scientific research databases like Google Scholar and Web of Science
NEXT STEPS
  • Research the molecular dynamics of friction at the atomic level
  • Study the principles of contact mechanics in engineering applications
  • Explore the effects of surface texture on friction coefficients
  • Investigate advanced materials with engineered surface properties for friction reduction
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Manufacturing engineers, materials scientists, and students studying tribology or surface engineering will benefit from this discussion, particularly those interested in the relationship between surface roughness and frictional forces.

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For our Manufacturing class, one of our take-home quizzes is to find out why, as surface roughness continues to decrease (think of very finely polished materials) the static friction between the plates as you try and slide them will increase. Basically, really rough surfaces will be hard to slide and really fine surfaces will also be hard to slide.

We can use any sources and the explanation must be in-depth (driven down to pretty much the molecular level).

As of now, we're having difficulty finding information and I figured some of you guys here might know where to look (we've been searching Google Scholar, Web of Science, etc.).
 
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The intermolecular forces are stronger if there is more area over which to act.

Let us consider a rough surface with grooves, the surface of which looks like this in cross-section:

_----_----_----_----_----_

The contact surface area between too such surface would be decreased, but the the grooves are not wide enough for the hills in between to go in them and catch.

Another possible surface would be like this:

__-__-__-__-__-__-__

When two of these surfaces are in contact, the hills of one enter the valleys of another. This results in a resistance to lateral movement. It is friction, but a different kind.
 

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