Slope of Linear function

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The discussion revolves around finding the possible slopes of a linear function that passes through the point (4,3) and forms a triangle of area 27 with the positive coordinate axes. The problem involves understanding the relationship between the line's slope and the intercepts on the axes.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to determine where the line crosses the axes and how to express the area of the triangle formed. There are attempts to derive equations based on the intercepts and the area condition, leading to questions about the number of possible slopes and methods to simplify the problem.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on how to set up the equations and suggested using a single variable to express the slope. There is acknowledgment of the complexity involved in finding the slopes, and multiple interpretations of the problem are being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the challenge of dealing with multiple variables and the need for clarity in the assumptions made about the intercepts and area calculations. There is a focus on ensuring that the area condition is met while exploring the slopes.

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Hello,
I'm having a hard time solving a linear function slope problem.So I would be thankful if someone could provide me with an answer and explanation of the problem.

The problem is the following: Find the possible slopes of a line that passes through(4,3) so that the portion of the line in the first quadrant forms a triangle of area 27 with the positive coordinate axes.
 
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To determine the triangle area you will need to calculate where the line crosses the axes.
Start with a drawing. Give the general form of a line through (4,3) with slope m and solve x for y = 0 and y for x = 0.
 
Are you able to see how a line can form the hypotenuse of a right triangle with the positive coordinate axes?

Chet
 
I've tried to find where the line crosses the axes, but I ended up with many variables with no answer.

I would really appreciate it if you could provide the answer with an explanation.
 
Show us the details of what you did. Then we can help you. That's what this is all about.

Chet
 
Sorry for not posting my solution attempt. I'm Kind of new to this website.

I assumed that one of the possible lines crosses the x-axis at (a,0) and the y-axis at (0,b) and that a*b=54 since (Area of triangle*2 )=27*2=ab. I used the the two-intercept form of the line equation.

The solution attempt: (-b*x/a)+b=y → bx+ay=ab →4b+3a=54
this is where I ended up
I tried to assigning numbers to satisfy the equation 4b+3a=54 , and the results I got was( a=12 and b=4.5) and (b=9 and a=6)
so the slopes are (-3/2) and (-3/8)

I don't know if there is any other possible slopes or how to make sure there isn't. Also, is there a way to find the slopes without ending up assigning numbers to satisfy 4b+3a=ab; that is, a way to find the answer without dealing with two variables.
 
Ibraheem said:
Sorry for not posting my solution attempt. I'm Kind of new to this website.

I assumed that one of the possible lines crosses the x-axis at (a,0) and the y-axis at (0,b) and that a*b=54 since (Area of triangle*2 )=27*2=ab. I used the the two-intercept form of the line equation.

The solution attempt: (-b*x/a)+b=y → bx+ay=ab →4b+3a=54
You were very close to having it solved.

You can still use ab= 54 again by substituting for either b or a in the above equation. This will give you an equation exclusively in terms of either a or b.

Chet
 
Ibraheem said:
Sorry for not posting my solution attempt. I'm Kind of new to this website.

I assumed that one of the possible lines crosses the x-axis at (a,0) and the y-axis at (0,b) and that a*b=54 since (Area of triangle*2 )=27*2=ab. I used the the two-intercept form of the line equation.

The solution attempt: (-b*x/a)+b=y → bx+ay=ab →4b+3a=54
this is where I ended up
I tried to assigning numbers to satisfy the equation 4b+3a=54 , and the results I got was( a=12 and b=4.5) and (b=9 and a=6)
so the slopes are (-3/2) and (-3/8)

I don't know if there is any other possible slopes or how to make sure there isn't. Also, is there a way to find the slopes without ending up assigning numbers to satisfy 4b+3a=ab; that is, a way to find the answer without dealing with two variables.

Those are the only two solutions. The easiest way to see this is to use a single variable (slope = ##-s##), and write the equation of the line as
y = 3 - s(x-4)
Note that when ##x = 4## we have ##y = 3##, as we need; and the slope is ##-s##, as stated. You can find the x- and y-intercepts in terms of ##s##: to find the x-intercept ##B## (= "base"), set ##y = 0## and solve for ##x## in terms of ##s##. To find the y-intercept ##H## (= "height"), just put ##x = 0##. Now the area ##A = \frac{1}{2} BH## becomes a function of ##s##. Setting ##A = 27## yields a quadratic equation for ##s##, so has at most two roots. In this case it does have exactly two positive, real roots that you can find using the quadratic-root formula.
 

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