Small Genset Project - Feedback Request

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around building a small generator set (genset) with a target power output of 3kW, focusing on engine selection and design considerations. Participants explore options for fuel types, engine specifications, and practical applications of the genset.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a single cylinder gasoline engine, noting that a two-cycle motor may be the cheapest option but is limited by emission regulations, making a four-cycle motor more viable.
  • Another participant emphasizes the value of learning from established products like Honda's gensets, suggesting that improvements in efficiency could be explored while acknowledging Honda's extensive investment in development.
  • A different viewpoint highlights the importance of understanding project constraints such as cost and fabrication capabilities, recommending checking motorcycle dismantlers for suitable engines.
  • One participant raises the need to clarify the intended use of the genset, mentioning considerations like voltage requirements for charging batteries and the importance of engine RPM for longevity and output frequency.
  • Concerns are expressed about the complexity of assembling a 3kW portable genset from miscellaneous components, with a suggestion to consider using a four HP engine or larger, potentially sourced from lawnmower shops.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of opinions on engine selection and design, with no consensus reached on the best approach or specific engine type to use. Multiple competing views remain regarding the feasibility and practicality of different options.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention various constraints such as cost, engine specifications, and intended use, but these factors remain unresolved and are dependent on individual project goals.

Who May Find This Useful

This discussion may be useful for hobbyists or engineers interested in small engine design, portable power generation, or those seeking practical advice on building custom generator sets.

ElectricPaint
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Hello everyone!

I want to do a small project, and would like your thoughts:
I'm going to build a small genset, with a target power output of 3kW, and "one person carry" possibility.

Using liquid fuel, probably gasoline.
Although if diesel is a possibility, that would be interesting to study.

Any thoughts on what engine can be used?
I thought a small engine, like the ones Honda uses in their small power plants.
Honda's small gensets go up to 2kW, and are still "one person carry".

Ideas on what engine to use for this?
Thank you!
 
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For such a small unit, a single cylinder gasoline engine is probably the simplest.
A two cycle motor would be cheapest, but I think emission rules have curtailed their availability, so a 4 cycle motor will probably be the best bet.
A diesel would be substantially heavier, the 20:1 compression mandates hefty cylinder walls.
 
If I wanted to build a small, lightweight generator I would use the example of Honda and copy their product. I am humble enough to admit that Honda has invested millions of $ and thousands of engineers over many years to create their product, and that I am only one person with limited experience/education. Why would I sit in a vacuum and ignore all the advances they have achieved?

Of course, there is always room for improvements in efficiency. I suggest you look for ways to improve existing "top of the line" gensets.
 
Without knowing your constraints (i.e., cost, time, fabrication capabilities), it's hard know exactly what might be helpful. If it was my own project, I'd probably begin by going to a motorcycle dismantler (junk yard) and check the prices of available engines. It won't do any good to have a 3kw generator if you can't afford a big enough engine to spin it.
 
You should decide what you want to use it for first...what voltage do you want...or are your trying to charge 12 volt batteries, for example?

3kw PORTBLE from miscellaneous components may not be so easy...HONDA has carefully matched components.

1 hp is about 3/4 KW...so you'll need about 4 of those units to generate 3 kw...a four HP engine or a bit larger...I think a typical 22" lawn mower engine is about that size...check to be sure...so you could probably get a used four cycle engine cheap from a lawnmower shop.

And if you are charging 12 volt batteries, maybe a used alternator from an automobile. You should also consiuder the rated engine RPM...if you want longer life, a engine rated at 1800 RPM will likely do better than one run at 3,600 RPM. You'll to generate about 14 volts for actual charge.

If you are trying to generate alternating current, for household, that's 60 hertz in the US and 50 hertz in Europe, so you'll have to control the engine RPM to get the output frequency you want.
 

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