Small trig substitution problem.

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The discussion revolves around a trigonometric identity involving sine and cosine functions, specifically the expression sin^4(t)cos^2(t) + cos^4(t)sin^2(t) = cos^2(t)sin^2(t). Participants are exploring the derivation and understanding of this identity within the context of Green's theorem.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • One participant attempts to manipulate the identity using basic trigonometric identities and substitutions but expresses uncertainty about the path taken. Others suggest simpler approaches, such as factoring common terms, to clarify the identity.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, with some offering guidance on alternative methods to approach the identity. There is recognition of the simplicity of the solution, although no explicit consensus is reached on the best method to derive it.

Contextual Notes

Some participants note the difficulty in finding similar examples or explanations in standard resources, indicating a potential gap in available reference material for this specific type of trigonometric substitution.

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Homework Statement



I was working on a problem set involving greens theorem and I came across this peculiar trig substitution. I was just wondering how it came about as I couldn't find anything like it on Wikipedia's page.

sin^4(t)cos^2(t) + cos^4(t) sin^2(t) = cos^2(t)sin^2(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using the basic's such as (cos^2(t))^2 = (1 - sin^2(t))^2

along with (sin^2(t))^2 = (1 - cos^2(t))^2

which after some substitution gives

cos^6(t) - cos^4(t) + sin^2(t)cos^2(t) + sin^6(t) - sin^4(t) + sin^2(t)cos^2(t)

Which is close to what I wanted, but I started to get the feeling that the path I was going down wasn't going to yield my identity. Can anyone shed some light?
 
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Hi ozone! :smile:

Did you try the simpler idea of taking sin^2t\cdot cos^2t out common? :wink:
Edit : Arrgh! multi-post :frown:
Mod note: not any more...
 
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ozone said:

Homework Statement



I was working on a problem set involving greens theorem and I came across this peculiar trig substitution. I was just wondering how it came about as I couldn't find anything like it on Wikipedia's page.

sin^4(t)cos^2(t) + cos^4(t) sin^2(t) = cos^2(t)sin^2(t)

The Attempt at a Solution


I tried using the basic's such as (cos^2(t))^2 = (1 - sin^2(t))^2

along with (sin^2(t))^2 = (1 - cos^2(t))^2

which after some substitution gives

cos^6(t) - cos^4(t) + sin^2(t)cos^2(t) + sin^6(t) - sin^4(t) + sin^2(t)cos^2(t)

Which is close to what I wanted, but I started to get the feeling that the path I was going down wasn't going to yield my identity. Can anyone shed some light?
How about:

\sin^4(t)\cos^2(t) + \cos^4(t) \sin^2(t) = \cos^2(t)\sin^2(t)\left(\sin^2(t)+\cos^2(t)\right) \ ?
 
Thanks sammy's that is definitely sufficient proof for me. DOH that was an easy one =d

edit: thanks infinitum too you would have pointed me in the right direction
 
ozone said:
Thanks sammy's that is definitely sufficient proof for me. DOH that was an easy one =d

edit: thanks infinitum too you would have pointed me in the right direction

Err, what SammyS and I said are exactly the same thing. I preferred not to elaborate :smile:
 
Infinitum said:
Hi ozone! :smile:

Did you try the simpler idea of taking sin^2t\cdot cos^2t out common? :wink:



Edit : Arrgh! multi-post :frown:

I second that motion. Always factor factor FACTOR !
 

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