Smoke about 10 cigarettes a day?

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The discussion revolves around the health implications of smoking approximately 10 cigarettes a day, particularly from the perspective of a 24-year-old who expresses a desire to live until around 60. Participants explore concerns about early mortality, health quality, and the motivations behind starting smoking at an older age.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants express concern about the health risks associated with smoking, suggesting that even a small number of cigarettes can lead to serious health issues.
  • Others question the rationale behind starting to smoke at 24, indicating that one should be mature enough to understand the risks involved.
  • A participant shares personal experiences, noting that the desire to cling to life often increases with age, challenging the initial perspective of wanting to die early.
  • There are mentions of the probabilistic nature of life expectancy for smokers versus non-smokers, with some arguing that quitting smoking by a certain age can significantly improve life expectancy.
  • Some participants highlight the potential for developing a heavier smoking habit over time, which could complicate future attempts to quit.
  • Concerns are raised about the possibility of painful health outcomes from smoking, not limited to cancer but including other serious conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally express concern about the health risks of smoking, but there is no consensus on the implications of smoking 10 cigarettes a day or the motivations for starting at an older age. Multiple competing views remain regarding the long-term effects and personal choices surrounding smoking.

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Participants reference personal experiences and anecdotal evidence, which may not represent broader trends or outcomes. The discussion includes various assumptions about health, maturity, and life choices that are not universally agreed upon.

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How worried should I be that I smoke about 10 cigarettes a day?

I'm 24, and only want to live to about 60 or so.

Will I seriously die ealier from smoking?

Hope this thread is allowed: as I know it's not an "in-depth" medical discussion.
 
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Do you believe that 10 per day is adequately low? How will you view this when you are 60 years old? What quality of health do you want by the time you reach 60 years?

At the very least, inhaling smoke is dirty. More than that, toxic materials go into your circulatory system and reach many parts of your body when you inhale smoke.

In case anyone disagrees with my manner of expression here, feel free to respond.
 


I am 56. I have a lot of my life left (I hope) and would be ashamed to think that I would willingly engage in practices that would kill me that quick. My father is 82. My mother-in-law is 92. Are you so willing to give up your life early for the opportunity to engage in unhealthy practices now? It's your choice, but I don't see where smoking gives you a fun (short) life and balances.
 


When you're young, you just can't *value* how much your life will mean to you when you're older. Life becomes more precious, the older you get.

The pleasure you get from a smoke is nothing, compared to good health in middle and old age.
 


Holocene said:
How worried should I be that I smoke about 10 cigarettes a day?

I'm 24, and only want to live to about 60 or so.

Will I seriously die ealier from smoking?

Hope this thread is allowed: as I know it's not an "in-depth" medical discussion.
Dying at 60 is dying early, but if you only want to live to 60, then it is fine that you are smoking. Your average life expectancy at birth is 76. Smoking will help you attain your goal of dying early.
 


I should probably quit now. Have only been smoking for about 6 weeks.
 


Holocene said:
I should probably quit now. Have only been smoking for about 6 weeks.

Why did you start smoking at 24? I can understand youngsters starting to smoke (since I did-- I started probably when I was around 15, and only quit around 8 months ago) but I can't comprehend why someone would want to start smoking at such an old age!
 


cristo said:
Why did you start smoking at 24? I can understand youngsters starting to smoke (since I did-- I started probably when I was around 15, and only quit around 8 months ago) but I can't comprehend why someone would want to start smoking at such an old age!

not sure, but "old age"?

ha, you're probably right. Life is indeed slipping away..;.:cry:
 


Holocene said:
not sure, but "old age"?

Meaning you should be old enough to know better, not a stupid kid or susceptible to peer pressure anymore...so, really, I'm puzzled too...why would you start smoking at such a mature age as 24?
 
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Moonbear said:
Meaning you should be old enough to know better, not a stupid kid or susceptible to peer pressure anymore...so, really, I'm puzzled too...why would you start smoking at such a mature age as 24?

eh, I was never peer-pressured. Tried a cig several weeks ago, you know, just to try it. Well, I got somewhat used to it.

Stupid thing to do? Of course.
 
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Holocene said:
eh, I was never peer-pressured. Tried a cig several weeks ago, you know, just to try it. Well, I got somewhat used to it.

I'm still baffled. If you tried smoking now, and decided to start, then what stopped you trying it years ago when you were a susceptible teenager?
 
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cristo said:
I'm still baffled. If you tried smoking now, and decided to start, then what stopped you trying it years ago when you were a susceptible teenager?

hmm, I don't know. I fully admit I'm behind the 8-ball in terms of maturity though.
 
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I'm quitting after having one a day for about a year.
You should cut back to at least 2-3 a day, in my opinion. Whenever I did exceed my 'daily dose' I didn't enjoy it as much. Then again, that's my advice, and I'm not your average smoker.
 
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I don't really even get the point of smoking...I have never laid hands on one, nor do I plan to. I see more bad that can come of it than good.

And to start at 24? What? Why?? I think 10 a day, for only smoking 6 weeks, is a heck of a lot. Well, I think it's bad for people that have been smoking for years.
 
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You should stop while you can. My grandfather smoked for a long time with his buddies and then he decided to quit about 30 years ago, while his buddies still continued to smoke. Most of his smoking buddies had serious lung issues later on and are dead now, while my grandfather is still alive.
 
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What if you reach 60 years and you realize life is good? You might have grandchildren that you want to watch grow up...or maybe you discovered a new hobby that you want to become accomplished at before you die!

But you can't live long enough because back when you were 24 you decided that you only wanted to live to 60!
 
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Holocene said:
How worried should I be that I smoke about 10 cigarettes a day?

Very. You stand a very good change of soon working your way up to a pack a day habit. Once this happens, you've got a long, hard road ahead of you when you decide that you want to quit.

Holocene said:
I'm 24, and only want to live to about 60 or so.

Trust me, the older you get the more you want to cling to life. You may think now that 60 is a ripe old age, but when you've got a few more years under your belt the prospect of dying as young as sixty will seem obscene. For some context on this, my father died at the age of 69, which is terribly, terribly young given his lifestyle, where he lived, and his socio-economic status at the time of his death.

Dying at 60 would be pretty terrible, to be honest.


Holocene said:
Will I seriously die ealier from smoking?

Will you definitely die earlier? No. But that rather misses the point: life expectancy is inherently probabilistic; the life expectancy of a smoker in the developed world is far, far shorter than that of a non-smoker. I'm paraphrasing a bit but the latest research I've read suggests that if you quit by 40 and manage to survive the next ten years after that, you've got essentially the same life expectancy as someone who never smoked.

That said, don't be fooled into thinking you can survive until 40 as a smoker. The number of people who die as a result of smoking before they reach 40 is pretty shocking.
 
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Do consider that you could die a very painful and prolonged death from smoking, not just from cancer.

I know how hard it is to quit, so I'm one to talk, but one should at least be aware of possible outcomes.
 

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