Snells Law and refractive index

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The discussion centers around Snell's Law and the concept of refractive index, exploring its definitions, mathematical formulations, and proofs. Participants examine the relationships between angles of incidence and refraction, as well as the conditions under which Snell's Law applies.

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Main Points Raised

  • Some participants state that Snell's Law can be expressed as the ratio of the speeds of light in two media or as the relationship between the sines of the angles of incidence and refraction.
  • One participant questions the formulation of the refractive index, suggesting that it should be defined as the speed of light in vacuum divided by the speed in the medium.
  • Another participant notes that the equation involving the refractive indices and angles is valid only under specific conditions, such as when one medium has a refractive index of 1.
  • There is a query regarding the mathematical proof of Snell's Law, indicating a desire for a deeper understanding of its derivation.
  • Some participants provide links to external resources for derivations and explanations of Snell's Law.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the definitions and formulations related to Snell's Law and the refractive index. There is no consensus on a single interpretation or proof of Snell's Law, and the discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to its derivation.

Contextual Notes

Participants highlight that the validity of certain equations depends on specific assumptions about the media involved, particularly regarding the refractive index of one medium being equal to 1.

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Snells law states that refractive index = (speed in medium 1)/(speed in medium 2)
alternativley
1 μ2 = sin i / sin r

Why therefore does Snells law also equal:

μ1 * sin(angle-1) = μ2 * sin(angle-2)

and for a critical angle


μ1 sin C = μ2 sin 90

thanks
 
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Can I split 1 μ2 into μ1/μ2
 
jsmith613 said:
Snells law states that refractive index = (speed in medium 1)/(speed in medium 2)
Not quite. Actually,
Refractive index of medium = n (or μ) = (speed in vacuum) / (speed in medium)​
Plus, this isn't Snell's Law , it's the definition of the refractive index.

. . . alternativley
1 μ2 = sin i / sin r
Okay, it looks like you are using μ instead of n for refractive index. Well, the above equation is only true if medium 1 has μ1=1. It's not true in general.

Why therefore does Snells law also equal:

μ1 * sin(angle-1) = μ2 * sin(angle-2)
That is the equation for Snell's Law . Make the following substitutions, and you can get your previous equation:
μ1=1
angle-1 = i
angle-2 = r

. . . and for a critical angleμ1 sin C = μ2 sin 90

thanks
The critical angle (of incidence) occurs when the refracted angle is 90°. Larger angles of incidence would require sin(r)>1 to satisfy Snell's Law, which is impossible.

By the way, the basics of Snell's Law are given here:

https://www.physicsforums.com/library.php?do=view_item&itemid=226
 
ok then, so why is Snell's Law as it is. What is the mathmatical proof?

thanks
 

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