SNR for an underwater acoustic signal

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This discussion focuses on modeling the transmission loss and Signal-to-Noise Ratio (SNR) of underwater acoustic signals using specific equations and parameters. The user employs the expression y = sqrt(P)*exp(1i*2*fr*pi*t) to model the transmitted signal, where P is derived from the sound level (SL) of 142 dB referenced to 1 µPa at 1 meter. The calculations yield a power of 1.33 mW, which the user finds questionable given the expected detection range of 500 meters. Additionally, the user expresses concerns about overly optimistic SNR results exceeding 20 dB for an 800-meter range.

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  • Understanding of underwater acoustics and transmission loss modeling
  • Familiarity with the passive sonar equation
  • Knowledge of MATLAB for signal processing
  • Basic concepts of sound level (SL) and intensity (I) calculations
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How could I find the SNR of an acoustic signal knowing its sound level (db ref uPa @1m)
Hi, I'm trying to model the transmission loss and SNR of an acoustic signal underwater. I'm using this expression to modelize the transmitted signal:
y = sqrt(P)*exp(1i*2*fr*pi*t)'​
where P is the transmission power in watts, fr is the transmission frequency and t is the acquisition time.
The only data I have to find P is the sound level (SL) of my source that is supposed to be 142 dB ref 1uPa at 1 meter from the source. According to the Matlab documentation site (https://fr.mathworks.com/help/phased/ug/sonar-equation.html) sound level can be defined as:
SL = 10log10(I/Iref)​
where I is the intensity from the source in W/m^2 and Iref is the reference intensity of sound in water which value is 6.667*10^-19 W/m^2. Knowing the SL value, I can isolate I to find the acoustic pressure p_rms and then the power P because I can be defined as follows:
I=p_rms^2/ρc and I = P/4*pi*r^2
where p_rms: signal acoustic pressure in Pascal, ρ: water density (1000kg/m^3), c: sound speed in water (1500 m/s)
Putting these two equations together, I can find P that should be :
P = p_rms^2*(4*pi*r^2)/(ρc)
However, when I use the value of my source (142 dB), I get a power of 1.33 mW! I believe it doesn't make sense 'cause the signal source should be detected at the receiver at least at 500 m from the source.
With regard to the SNR, I use the passive sonar equation, however I find very optimist results (i.e. more than 20 dB for a range of 800m...) so I'm not really sure my calculations are right. If there's any pro in the underwater acoustics field that could give me a hand to resolve this, I will be very grateful.
Thanks!

JAP
 
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