So, what is the problem asking for? Integration by Parts for ∫(z^3e^z)dz

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The discussion revolves around the integration of the function ∫(z^3e^z)dz, specifically using the method of integration by parts. Participants are exploring the steps involved in applying this technique repeatedly to solve the integral.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the initial setup for integration by parts, identifying u and dv. There are attempts to express the integral in terms of simpler integrals but confusion arises when considering further applications of integration by parts.

Discussion Status

Some participants suggest continuing the integration by parts process, while others offer strategies to clarify the steps, such as using additional symbols to represent different integrals. There is an ongoing exploration of how to manage the complexity of the calculations.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the process can become confusing, indicating a need for clarity in notation and organization of the integrals involved. There is an emphasis on the iterative nature of the integration by parts method in this context.

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Homework Statement


∫((z^3)(e^z ))dz

Homework Equations



I just tried u dv - ∫v du

The Attempt at a Solution



u = z^3 dv = e^z
du = 3z^2 v = e^z

= z^3e^z - ∫(3e^z (z^2)) dz

I got this far but after that if I try integration by parts again, it gets too confusing.
 
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narutoish said:

Homework Statement


∫((z^3)(e^z ))dz


Homework Equations



I just tried u dv - ∫v du


The Attempt at a Solution



u = z^3 dv = e^z
du = 3z^2 v = e^z

= z^3e^z - ∫(3e^z (z^2)) dz

I got this far but after that if I try integration by parts again, it gets too confusing.

Integrate [itex]∫(3e^{z} (z^{2})) dz[/itex] with integration by parts till you get the term[itex]∫e^{z}dz[/itex]
 
narutoish said:

Homework Statement


∫((z^3)(e^z ))dz


Homework Equations



I just tried u dv - ∫v du


The Attempt at a Solution



u = z^3 dv = e^z
du = 3z^2 v = e^z

= z^3e^z - ∫(3e^z (z^2)) dz

I got this far but after that if I try integration by parts again, it gets too confusing.

You can avoid confusion by using some extra symbols. Let ##I = \int z^3 e^z \, dz##. Integration by parts gives you ##I = z^3 e^z - 3I_1##, where ##I_1 = \int z^2 e^z \, dz##. Now look at ##I_1## in the same way, etc. Using separate symbols like that helps to keep things straight and to reduce errors.
 

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