News Socialist EU finally Solves unemployment problem.

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German unemployment has risen for the 11th consecutive month, reaching 4.5 million, the highest since reunification in 1990. Under recent welfare reforms, women under 55 who have been unemployed for over a year may be compelled to accept any job, including in the sex industry, to avoid losing benefits. This has sparked a debate about the implications of such policies, with some arguing that while forcing individuals off welfare is necessary, mandating participation in prostitution crosses a moral line. The discussion also touches on broader economic issues in Germany, such as slow growth, high social security obligations due to an aging population, and rigid labor market regulations. Participants express differing views on the legality of prostitution and the role of traditional values in shaping societal norms. The conversation reflects a mix of frustration with current welfare policies and a critique of the economic challenges facing Germany.
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Rather a typical red tape solution.
 
Wow, prostitution is legal...awesome.
 
Under Germany's welfare reforms, any woman under 55 who has been out of work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job – including in the sex industry – or lose her unemployment benefit

I HATE SOCIALISTS.

Its funny too. Because forcing people off of welfare is decidely unsocialist. IN fact, i love the idea. If they refuse to take a job, its their own damn fault. However, forcing them to be prostitutes through government action--thats why traditional values are good. Hear me, you flaming liberals??

Thats why traditional values are good. Because we're not them.
Or you.
 
Gotta love Germany. You're from LA, right franz? Did you ever listen to Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla play "Florida or Germany?"
 
loseyourname said:
Gotta love Germany. You're from LA, right franz? Did you ever listen to Dr. Drew and Adam Corolla play "Florida or Germany?"

Nope. Conservative in LA = KFI fan. But I'm curious as to this "Florida or Germany" concept.
 
franznietzsche said:
I HATE SOCIALISTS.

Its funny too. Because forcing people off of welfare is decidely unsocialist. IN fact, i love the idea. If they refuse to take a job, its their own damn fault. However, forcing them to be prostitutes through government action--thats why traditional values are good. Hear me, you flaming liberals??

Thats why traditional values are good. Because we're not them.
Or you.

It is needed to force people off welfare, otherwise they would stay on it for ever, - if someone would pay me lots for not going to work, they I would stay doing this for ever.
Prostitution should not be allowed however. It is legal in the USA though, not just parts of germany. The USA does not embrace the traditional values, as shown by its current lack of enslaving the blacks, and womens rights.
 
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franznietzsche said:
Nope. Conservative in LA = KFI fan. But I'm curious as to this "Florida or Germany" concept.

Yeah, I mostly listened to KFI when I wanted political talk, but Loveline was for kicks. "Florida or Germany" was based on the premise that all completely outrageous, bizarre sexual acts and crimes take place either in Germany or Florida. Drew and Adam would have people call in with strange stories of sexual perversion off of the news wires and someone on the show (either the hosts or a guest) would have to guess whether the events took place in Florida or Germany. They actually came to be fairly good at it after a while.
 
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Where do you come up with socialism?

World Factbook said:
Germany's affluent and technologically powerful economy- the fifth largest national economy in the world - has become one of the slowest growing economies in the entire euro zone, and a quick turnaround is not in the offing in the foreseeable future. Growth in 2001-03 fell short of 1%. The modernization and integration of the eastern German economy continues to be a costly long-term process, with annual transfers from west to east amounting to roughly $70 billion. Germany's ageing population, combined with high unemployment, has pushed social security outlays to a level exceeding contributions from workers. Structural rigidities in the labor market - including strict regulations on laying off workers and the setting of wages on a national basis - have made unemployment a chronic problem. Corporate restructuring and growing capital markets are setting the foundations that could allow Germany to meet the long-term challenges of European economic integration and globalization, particularly if labor market rigidities are further addressed. The government is also starting long-needed structural reforms designed to revitalize the country's economy. In the short run, however, the fall in government revenues and the rise in expenditures have raised the deficit above the EU's 3% debt limit.
Germany has a unique problem in that the East/West Germany integration is still in progress, otherwise their problems don't seem all that different from ours -

- Aging population with increasing Social Security obligations
- High minimum wages
- Strict regulations for laying off workers, plus unemployment compensation

If you're calling them socialist, then ... :rolleyes: oh, I see what you're getting at, now.
 
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plus said:
It is needed to force people off welfare, otherwise they would stay on it for ever, - if someone would pay me lots for not going to work, they I would stay doing this for ever.
Prostitution should not be allowed however. It is legal in the USA though, not just parts of germany. The USA does not embrace the traditional values, as shown by its current lack of enslaving the blacks, and womens rights.

Um, i think you misunderstand the use of the term "traditional values" but whatever. Otherwise you just agreed with everything i said.

I have nothing against the legalization of prostitution, i really don't care about that. Its the threatening her for not becoming a prostitute. I have no problem with forcing people to get a job and get off of welfare, but i have a problem with forcing them into prostitution.
 
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Where do you come up with socialism?

Look's like someone still actually thinks problems like this have something to do with socialism of some sort ... kind of a straw man.
 
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franznietzsche said:
Um, i think you misunderstand the use of the term "traditional values" but whatever. Otherwise you just agreed with everything i said.

I have nothing against the legalization of prostitution, i really don't care about that. Its the threatening her for not becoming a prostitute. I have no problem with forcing people to get a job and get off of welfare, but i have a problem with forcing them into prostitution.
They're not forcing her to go into prostitution, they're saying she has to get a job, any job, prostitution included, the exact words: "any woman under 55 who has been out of work for more than a year can be forced to take an available job" this includes prostitution.
No one's actually going to prosecute someone for this. I wouldn't worry about it.
 
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plus said:
It is needed to force people off welfare, otherwise they would stay on it for ever, - if someone would pay me lots for not going to work, they I would stay doing this for ever.
Prostitution should not be allowed however.

Heyhey, isn't that ugly market regulation ?
 
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vanesch said:
Heyhey, isn't that ugly market regulation ?

No, its morality.
 
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No, its Algeria
 
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franznietzsche said:
Um, i think you misunderstand the use of the term "traditional values"

But that's the great thing about the phrase. It has no widely accepted definition and can be regarded as meaning just about anything anyone wants, so long as they refer to values of the past.

Republicans, conservative democrats, liberal democrats, populists, libertarians, white power groups - they can all use the phrase and be comfortable that it applies to them, and no one can say they are wrong.
 
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Locrian said:
But that's the great thing about the phrase. It has no widely accepted definition and can be regarded as meaning just about anything anyone wants, so long as they refer to values of the past.

Republicans, conservative democrats, liberal democrats, populists, libertarians, white power groups - they can all use the phrase and be comfortable that it applies to them, and no one can say they are wrong.

"They're wrong"

Wow, that was amazingly easy for something i can't do. :wink:
 
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Whoops, I meant to say "and no one can show they're wrong. :D

Because, thanks to the mediocrity of the phrase, they aren't.
 
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It's all part of good propoganda.
 
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Locrian said:
Whoops, I meant to say "and no one can show they're wrong. :D

Because, thanks to the mediocrity of the phrase, they aren't.

You're right (of course).

And, to prove this, to me, prostitution is one of those good old traditional values! After all, it is the oldest profession in the world, no ?


:smile:
 
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Murder, Spying, Smuggling, Wars, blah blah blah, so many traditional values.. how many of them do you think Bush supports?
 
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Smurf said:
Murder, Spying, Smuggling, Wars, blah blah blah, so many traditional values.. how many of them do you think Bush supports?


Did i ever say bush supported traditional values? no.

So go beat your own bush. *that works on far too many levels*
 

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