Solenoid valve for a cryogenic fluid

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The discussion focuses on the design ethics and safety considerations for a 240 volts AC solenoid valve used in cryogenic applications, specifically for liquid nitrogen. Key concerns include the potential for valve freezing, power loss leading to leakage, and the importance of selecting appropriate materials that can withstand low temperatures. Participants recommend consulting cryogenic valve catalogs and researching specific terms related to valve design, such as thermal expansion and material brittleness.

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  • Understanding of solenoid valve operation (normally closed vs. normally open)
  • Knowledge of cryogenic fluid properties, particularly liquid nitrogen
  • Familiarity with electrical safety standards for 240 volts AC systems
  • Basic principles of material science related to low-temperature applications
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  • Research cryogenic valve catalogs from manufacturers like Valcor and ASCO
  • Learn about thermal expansion properties of materials used in cryogenic applications
  • Investigate safety standards for solenoid valves in cryogenic environments
  • Explore white papers and technical documents on solenoid valve design for cryogenic use
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Engineers, designers, and safety professionals involved in the design and implementation of cryogenic systems, particularly those working with solenoid valves and liquid nitrogen applications.

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Hello everyone!

I am new to these forums and glad to see a great community helping out each other.

I have a question regarding a solenoid valve design. What should be the design ethics and safety considerations for a 240 volts AC connected solenoid valve that is used for a cryogenic vessel containing liquid nitrogen?

Any help will be greatly appreciated!
 
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Is it your concern that lose of power would open the valve and let the nitrogen leak out?
 
Yes one of the concerns is that. But what could be other safety related aspects apart from the leakage?
 
Solenoid valves come two ways. One needs power to keep it closed and the other needs power to keep it open. Which kind do you have?

A valve of any type could freeze up, especially when open and liquid nitrogen flows out.
 
anorlunda said:
Solenoid valves come two ways. One needs power to keep it closed and the other needs power to keep it open. Which kind do you have?

A valve of any type could freeze up, especially when open and liquid nitrogen flows out.
It needs power to keep it open
 
The solenoid valve would likely be what they use in the LNO2 versions of these environmental chambers. Is this similar to what you are doing?

http://www.sunelectronics.com/Temperature-Test-Chambers.html
co2_2.jpg
 
Sorry, i do not have an idea of the actual solenoid application. I have seen quite a lot of videos but there seems to be many types.

Its just a designing project in which i just have to write safety aspects in its design. I am thinking of leakage but there could also be spring failure and many other safety issues?
 
Other types of valves can have springs.

In that case, the hazards I see apply to any valve, not specifically to a solenoid operated valve.

Nitrogen is not flammable, so sparks are not an issue.
 
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Yasir132 said:
What should be the design ethics and safety considerations for a 240 volts AC connected solenoid valve that is used for a cryogenic vessel containing liquid nitrogen?

wow .

there's a valve for every purpose under heaven.

My advice is start with cryogenic valve catalogs and see what terms they use.
What comes to mind for me is materials .
Seals must not get brittle at low temperature, thermal expansion of moving parts must match so as to not cause binding, insulation on wires must withstand the cold as must plastic housings.

Then start googling those terms. With any luck you'll run into some "white papers" written for valve designers.

Here's a couple of catalogs to get you started
http://www.valcor.com/scientific-and-industrial/cryogenic-solenoid-valves/
http://www.asco.com/ASCO Asset Library/asco-cryogenic-valves-catalog.pdf

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