Engineering Solid State Physics vs Electronics Engineering

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The discussion clarifies the distinctions between solid state physics and electronics engineering, emphasizing that solid state physics encompasses a broader range of topics, including magnetism and superconductivity, while electronics engineering focuses on circuit design and device application. It is established that physicists, while instrumental in the invention of devices like transistors and lasers, typically lack the circuit design training that electronics engineers possess. Notably, in projects like the CERN ATLAS detector, the majority of circuit design is conducted by electrical engineers, with physicists contributing primarily to system design and integration.

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  • Understanding of solid state physics concepts, including magnetism and superconductivity.
  • Familiarity with electronics engineering principles, particularly circuit design.
  • Knowledge of semiconductor devices and their applications.
  • Awareness of the roles of electrical engineers and physicists in research and development projects.
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  • Research the principles of solid state physics, focusing on magnetism and superconductivity.
  • Explore advanced circuit design techniques used in electronics engineering.
  • Study the role of electrical engineers in large-scale projects like CERN's ATLAS detector.
  • Investigate the development of semiconductor devices and their impact on modern technology.
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This discussion is beneficial for electrical engineers, solid state physicists, and students in related fields seeking to understand the interplay between physics and engineering in circuit design and device innovation.

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Forgive me for asking this question if the answer is obvious. The truth is I have a BENG in electrical engineering and want to know the differences between the two.
From an engineer's perspective its about knowing what you can do with the devices in a useful way and design, analyze and build the circuit.
I'd like to know the Physicist's perspective and I'm also keen to know whether a Physicist is just as well trained as an engineer in designing circuits.
Thanks
 
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Solid state physics covers many more subjects than just semiconductor devices: Magnetism, Superconductivity, Metals, and so on are just simple examples, there are many more.

For semiconductor physics, the goal is not usually to combine existing devices to make circuits, but to find new ways to make devices.

The transistor was invented by (solid state) physicists. So was the laser.

Most physicists will not be trained as well in circuit designs as electronics engineers. But there are exceptions. There are physicists working on the electronics of the CERN detectors, for example, that are developing circuits that are state of the art in every sense. On the other hand I also know physicists that cannot tell a diode from a resistor or capacitor.
 
M Quack said:
Most physicists will not be trained as well in circuit designs as electronics engineers. But there are exceptions. There are physicists working on the electronics of the CERN detectors, for example, that are developing circuits that are state of the art in every sense. On the other hand I also know physicists that cannot tell a diode from a resistor or capacitor.

I agree with the beginning of your quote but most of the circuit design for the detectors at CERN (I have specific knowledge primarily of the ATLAS detector) was done by Electrical Engineers. There are some very knowledgeable physicists on the project to be sure, but their contributions are mostly on the system design, evaluation, system integration, and software development and less on the hard-core electronics development (not least the IC development which was done almost entirely by EEs and a couple of physicists turned EEs).
 
That is quite possible. I stand corrected.
 
For some background, I'm currently a 3rd year physics major with an astro specialization studying in Canada, and as undergraduates are want to do I'm regularly evaluating my career prospects down the road. I also plan on pursuing grad school when I've completed my degree. It might just be my anxiety acting up a little, but with a lot of the government funding drying up for public science research broadly in the US, the 'industry' everyone keeps talking about when questions like this are...

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