Solution for two unknowns with two equations

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The discussion revolves around solving a system of two equations involving trigonometric functions, specifically aimed at finding the unknown angles qb and qc given known parameters. The equations involve cosine and sine terms and are framed in the context of algebraic manipulation and potential numerical methods.

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  • Participants present a system of equations involving trigonometric functions and express the need to solve for qb and qc.
  • One participant suggests using the identity ##\sin(x) = \sqrt{1-\cos^2(x)}## as a potential approach, while noting there may be better solutions.
  • Another participant proposes transforming the equations using a tangent half-angle substitution, indicating that an exact solution may not be possible and that numerical methods might be necessary.
  • In contrast, a different participant asserts that an analytic solution is indeed possible due to the common prefactors in the equations.

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There is no consensus on the method of solution, with some participants suggesting numerical methods while others believe an analytic solution exists. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the best approach to take.

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Participants express varying opinions on the solvability of the system, with some suggesting that approximative numerical methods may be required, while others argue for the feasibility of an analytic solution. The discussion does not clarify the specific conditions under which each method may be applicable.

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lb*cos(qb) - lc*cos(qc) = ld*cos(qd) - la*cos(qa)

lb*sin(qb) - lc*sin(qc) = ld*sin(qd) - la*sin(qa)


Those are the equations I have. I know all the parameters but qb and qc.

How can I solve for qb and qc ?
 
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zoom1 said:
lb*cos(qb) - lc*cos(qc) = ld*cos(qd) - la*cos(qa)

lb*sin(qb) - lc*sin(qc) = ld*sin(qd) - la*sin(qa)


Those are the equations I have. I know all the parameters but qb and qc.

How can I solve for qb and qc ?
This would mean the system is:

B⋅cos x - C⋅cos y = D
B⋅sin x - C⋅sin y = E

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There is always the approach ##\sin(x) = \sqrt{1-\cos^2(x)}##, but there might be a better solution for this particular set of equations.
 
zoki85 said:
This would mean the system is:

B⋅cos x - C⋅cos y = D
B⋅sin x - C⋅sin y = E

?

Yes
 
Transform it into system of algebraic equation with tangent half-angle substitution:
tan(x/2)=u ⇒ sin(x)=2u/(1+u2) , cos(x)=(1-u2)/(1+u2)
tan(y/2)=v ⇒ sin(y)=2v/(1+v2) , cos(y)=(1-v2)/(1+v2).

Unfortunatelly, it seems in general case the system can't be solved exactly,and you'll have to do it with aproximative numerical methods (iterativelly).

*Post edited for removing typos
 
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It is possible to find an analytic solution. The common prefactors on the left side make it much easier.
 

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