Solution to the diff. eqn. dy/y-a*dx/x = b, where a and b are constant

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The discussion revolves around finding a solution to the differential equation dy/y - a*dx/x = b, where a and b are constants. Participants explore the implications of adding the constant b to the equation and the necessary conditions for integration.

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  • One participant asserts that the solution to the equation dy/y - a*dx/x = 0 is y = C*x^a, but is uncertain about the solution when b is included.
  • Another participant suggests integrating both sides of the modified equation dy/y - a*dx/x = b.
  • A subsequent reply questions the variable with respect to which b should be integrated.
  • Another participant proposes that y is a function of a parameter p, suggesting the equation may need to be expressed as dy/y - a dx/x = b dp to include a differential on the right-hand side.
  • A participant clarifies that the equation is derived from a specific problem and emphasizes that y is a function of x, expressing doubt about the existence of a solution when b is non-zero.
  • One participant argues that the right-hand side must be a differential rather than a constant, proposing a reformulation of the equation to include derivatives and differentials on both sides.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the necessity of including a differential on the right-hand side of the equation. There is no consensus on whether a closed-form solution exists when b is non-zero.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of defining the variables and the need for a differential on the right-hand side, indicating potential limitations in the original formulation of the equation.

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This discussion may be of interest to those studying differential equations, particularly in the context of integrating equations with constants and exploring the conditions for valid solutions.

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It is very clear that the solution to the equation "dy/y-a*dx/x = 0" is y=C*x^a. However I cannot figure out the solution when I add the constant b to the other side. Any help would be greatly appreciated!
 
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Integrate both sides of the equation dy/y - a dx/x = b .
 
Thanks for the hint but, integrate b with respect to what?
 
Well, I assume y is a function of a parameter -say- p: y(p).
The same for x.

And I assume the right hand side must have been some b dp.
No idea what the exact question could be, of course.

If this comes from a book, you could provide the reference.

So my assumption is: you are asked to solve

dy/y - a dx/x = bdp

You need anyway a d-'something' (differential) on the rhs.
So usual, that I even did not see it was missing in your question.
 
The equation is not from any book, I derived it for a particular problem that I have.

y is a function of x, y(x) and a and b are two constants.

I do not know if it has a solution. The thing is that if b=0, the solution is very simple, y=C*x^a, so I was wondering whether there is a closed form solution if b is non-zero but a constant.
 
The right hand side must be a differential, not a simple constant.
For example, you could rewrite the original equation as:

1/y dy/dx - a /x = 0

Here you have a derivative on the left hand side, not a differential anymore.
You can then generalize it to:

1/y dy/dx - a /x = b

And you can transform it to:

dy/y - dx/x = b dx

where "elements" or "differential" appear on both sides.
It should be like that!
Something supposed to be "as small as needed" on the left cannot be equal a given constant on the right.
 

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