Solutions for Sin/Cos/Tan: Understanding and Applying the OR Rule

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The discussion centers around the solutions for the trigonometric functions sine, cosine, and tangent, particularly focusing on the interpretation of the "OR" rule in the context of these solutions. Participants are exploring the implications of this rule and its application to both positive and negative angles.

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  • Participants are questioning the meaning of "OR" in the context of trigonometric solutions, debating whether it implies a choice between expressions or a combination of them. There are inquiries about the treatment of negative angles and how they relate to the solutions provided in the textbook.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing differing interpretations of the "OR" rule and its implications for negative angles. Some have offered clarifications regarding the nature of solutions and the definition of variables, but no consensus has been reached.

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There is confusion regarding the terminology used, particularly the distinction between "solutions" and the parameters of trigonometric functions. Participants are also addressing the implications of using negative values for the angle θ in the context of the provided solutions.

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hello

I read in textbook that
the solutions of sinθ is k360+θ or k360+180-θ
the solutions of cosθ is k360+θ or k360-θ
the solutions of tanθ is k180+θ

1) what does the OR mean exactly? to get all the solutions we ADD (so AND, not OR) the expressions of the solutions? I understand OR, as if I can use only one of those (eg. for sinθ I can use only k360+θ OR k360+180-θ) and I will find all the solutions?
2) does these apply when θ is negative? so if the solution I get from the calculator is negative, do I process it with its negative sign?

thanks!
 
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I assume it just means that sinθ = sin(360+θ) = sin(360+180-θ), etc
 
physior said:
hello

I read in textbook that
the solutions of sinθ is k360+θ or k360+180-θ
the solutions of cosθ is k360+θ or k360-θ
the solutions of tanθ is k180+θ

1) what does the OR mean exactly? to get all the solutions we ADD (so AND, not OR) the expressions of the solutions?
No, "or" is correct. For example, if x2 = 4, then x = 2 OR x = -2. x can be either one of those values. "And" is not applicable because x can't simultaneously be equal to 2 and -2.
physior said:
I understand OR, as if I can use only one of those (eg. for sinθ I can use only k360+θ OR k360+180-θ) and I will find all the solutions?
2) does these apply when θ is negative? so if the solution I get from the calculator is negative, do I process it with its negative sign?
Yes. This possibility is covered when k is negative. It will usually be specified that k is an integer, which includes the negative integers.
 
Mark44 said:
No, "or" is correct. For example, if x2 = 4, then x = 2 OR x = -2. x can be either one of those values. "And" is not applicable because x can't simultaneously be equal to 2 and -2.
Yes. This possibility is covered when k is negative. It will usually be specified that k is an integer, which includes the negative integers.

I am talking about the theta to be negative! not the k (which I know it must belong to Z)
 
physior said:
I am talking about the theta to be negative! not the k (which I know it must belong to Z)
Then you need to be clearer in what you're asking.
physior said:
I read in textbook that
the solutions of sinθ is k360+θ or k360+180-θ
the solutions of cosθ is k360+θ or k360-θ
the solutions of tanθ is k180+θ
"The solutions of sinθ" doesn't make any sense. When we talk about solutions, we're talking about values that make an equation a true statement. There are no equations in what you wrote.
 
by the solutions of sinθ, I mean θ!
 
physior said:
by the solutions of sinθ, I mean θ!

But θ is NOT a "solution to sinθ". If θ is 45 degrees, for example, sin θ is .707
 
physior said:
by the solutions of sinθ, I mean θ!
As I already said, sinθ is not an equation, so it doesn't make sense to talk about solutions of an expression. In the expression sinθ, θ is the argument or parameter of the sine function.
 

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