Solve 3D Vector Question: Find Plane Orthogonal to -7x+8y+5z=1

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The problem involves finding a plane that contains a given line and is orthogonal to another specified plane. The context is rooted in multi-variable calculus, specifically dealing with vector operations and the equations of planes.

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  • Exploratory, Mathematical reasoning, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants discuss the use of the cross product to find a normal vector for the plane. There is uncertainty about the correct application of the formula for the plane's equation and the identification of a point on the plane. Questions arise regarding the numerical answers and the derivation of the plane's equation.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's approaches. Some have identified potential errors in calculations and the need for clarification on the problem's requirements. There is a recognition of the importance of finding a point on the plane, and multiple interpretations of the normal vector have been explored.

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Participants note that there may be confusion regarding the correct normal vector and the point on the line that should be used in the plane's equation. There is also mention of arithmetic errors affecting the results.

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I'm doing some multi-variable calculus review, and I had a question (my understanding of the class was not as good as I would have liked it to be).

<b> 1. Homework Statement </b>.
Find a plane containing the line r(t) = <6,-6,4> + t<-2,7,-4> and orthogonal to the plane -7x+8y+5z=1.

<b> 2. Homework Equations </b>.
I think I need to use a cross product. I cross <-2,7,-4> and <-7,8,5> to get a vector orthogonal to to the plane (and the line). Then, I use n (dot) (r-r_0), but I keep getting the wrong answer. I fear that my approach is wrong though.
answer is: 635/2

<b> 3. The Attempt at a Solution </b>.
So when I cross <-2,7,-4> and <-7,8,5> I get <67, 38, 33>, and my plane is 67x+38y+33z=46.

Help please.
 
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BoundByAxioms said:
I think I need to use a cross product. I cross <-2,7,-4> and <-7,8,5> to get a vector orthogonal to to the plane (and the line). Then, I use n (dot) (r-r_0), but I keep getting the wrong answer. I fear that my approach is wrong though.
answer is: 635/2
That numerical answer is for which part of the question? You're asked to find the plane containing the line right? I got the same normal vector as you did <67,68,33>. But then you're told to find the equation of the plane, which you know has the general form [tex]\vec{n} \cdot (\vec{r}-\vec{r_0})[/tex]

So what you're missing is a point which resides on the plane. Look at the question again, how can you get that missing point? How did you get 67x + 38y + 33z = 46?
 
Defennder said:
That numerical answer is for which part of the question? You're asked to find the plane containing the line right? I got the same normal vector as you did <67,68,33>. But then you're told to find the equation of the plane, which you know has the general form [tex]\vec{n} \cdot (\vec{r}-\vec{r_0})[/tex]

So what you're missing is a point which resides on the plane. Look at the question again, how can you get that missing point? How did you get 67x + 38y + 33z = 46?

Yeah that fraction was part of what I copied and pasted, so ignore that. Ok, so all I need is a point, meaning I can use t=1 to get the point (4,1,0)? Then it would be:

67(x-4)+68(y-1)+33(z-0)=0
Then
67x+68y+33z=336?

I got 67x + 38y + 33z = 46 by doing <67,38,33> \cdot <x-6, y+6, z-4>. I used t=0 for my point. I used the wrong normal vector (just a writing mistake).
 
Typo error on my part. The normal vector should be <67,38,33>, not <67,68,33>. Use that vector and just apply the formula for any value of t. After all, the line lies on the plane, does it not?
 
Defennder said:
Typo error on my part. The normal vector should be <67,38,33>, not <67,68,33>. Use that vector and just apply the formula for any value of t. After all, the line lies on the plane, does it not?

This is true. But I let t=0 and still got the wrong answer.
 
What's the answer supposed to be?
 
I got the correct answer. My arithmetic was wrong, as it usually is when doing cross-products. Thank you for your help!
 

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