Solve a system of two linked harmonic oscillators

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The discussion focuses on solving a system of two linked harmonic oscillators represented by differential equations for two masses connected by a spring. A key strategy involves substituting one variable into the other, although participants express confusion about how to proceed. The conversation emphasizes the importance of determining equilibrium solutions, suggesting that one should first solve for the accelerations being zero. Participants also mention using the Hamiltonian to derive solutions, leading to a system of equations with two unknowns. Overall, the thread highlights the complexity of the problem and the necessity of visual aids for better understanding.
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$$m_1 \ddot{x} - m_1 g + \frac{k(d-l)}{d}x=0$$
$$m_2 \ddot{y} - m_2 \omega^2 y + \frac{k(d-l)}{d}y=0$$

It is two masses connected by a spring. ##d=\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}## and ##l## is the length of the relaxed spring (a constant).

What is the strategy to solve such a system? I tried substituting one in the other and got

$$y m_1\ddot{x} -m_1gy=xm_2\ddot{y}-m_2\omega^2 yx$$

I don't know how to continue from here. Can you maybe keep one coordinate constant and solve for the other? Doesn't seem to make much sense.

Also the question in the exam says, "Determine the two equilibrium solutions" but I presume, you first have to find the solutions first, right?
 
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Could you please give a diagram showing the coordinate system, the spring, etc., with the different symbols marked in the diagram?
 
Chandra Prayaga said:
Could you please give a diagram showing the coordinate system, the spring, etc., with the different symbols marked in the diagram?

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See nothing ! Just an
 
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Yes. Now I see
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and a whole lot of imgur crud. The equations make a little more sense now.

YellowBiro said:
I presume, you first have to find the solutions
You assume wrongly. Try to solve ##x## and ##y## from ##\ \ \ddot x = 0 \land \ddot y = 0##
 

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Yes. Now I see
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and a whole lot of imgur crud. The equations make a little more sense now.

You assume wrongly. Try to solve ##x## and ##y## from ##\ \ \ddot x = 0 \land \ddot y = 0##

Oh I see now. I actually got that the accelerations are zero from the Hamiltonian. So then if I integrate I get two solutions which I then substitute in the eom above and end up with two equations and two unknowns.
 

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