Solve a system of two linked harmonic oscillators

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The discussion revolves around a system of two linked harmonic oscillators represented by differential equations involving two masses connected by a spring. The problem includes variables such as mass, gravitational force, spring constant, and the length of the relaxed spring.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • The original poster attempts to substitute one equation into another but expresses uncertainty about how to proceed. They question whether keeping one coordinate constant could be a viable strategy. Additionally, they seek clarification on the requirement to find equilibrium solutions before solving the system.

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Participants are engaging with the problem by requesting diagrams for better understanding and discussing the implications of the equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the approach to finding solutions by considering the conditions under which the accelerations are zero.

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There is a request for a diagram to clarify the coordinate system and the components of the system. The original poster notes confusion regarding the relationship between finding solutions and determining equilibrium solutions.

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$$m_1 \ddot{x} - m_1 g + \frac{k(d-l)}{d}x=0$$
$$m_2 \ddot{y} - m_2 \omega^2 y + \frac{k(d-l)}{d}y=0$$

It is two masses connected by a spring. ##d=\sqrt{x^2 + y^2}## and ##l## is the length of the relaxed spring (a constant).

What is the strategy to solve such a system? I tried substituting one in the other and got

$$y m_1\ddot{x} -m_1gy=xm_2\ddot{y}-m_2\omega^2 yx$$

I don't know how to continue from here. Can you maybe keep one coordinate constant and solve for the other? Doesn't seem to make much sense.

Also the question in the exam says, "Determine the two equilibrium solutions" but I presume, you first have to find the solutions first, right?
 
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Could you please give a diagram showing the coordinate system, the spring, etc., with the different symbols marked in the diagram?
 
Chandra Prayaga said:
Could you please give a diagram showing the coordinate system, the spring, etc., with the different symbols marked in the diagram?

yko5n
 
See nothing ! Just an
 
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Yes. Now I see
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and a whole lot of imgur crud. The equations make a little more sense now.

YellowBiro said:
I presume, you first have to find the solutions
You assume wrongly. Try to solve ##x## and ##y## from ##\ \ \ddot x = 0 \land \ddot y = 0##
 

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Yes. Now I see
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and a whole lot of imgur crud. The equations make a little more sense now.

You assume wrongly. Try to solve ##x## and ##y## from ##\ \ \ddot x = 0 \land \ddot y = 0##

Oh I see now. I actually got that the accelerations are zero from the Hamiltonian. So then if I integrate I get two solutions which I then substitute in the eom above and end up with two equations and two unknowns.
 

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