Solve Basic Trigonometry Homework: m^2+n^2=cosec^2θ

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The problem involves proving that \( m^{2}+n^{2}=\cosec^{2} \theta \) given a set of equations related to the cosine rule in triangles. The context is basic trigonometry, focusing on relationships between sides and angles in triangles.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the need to draw triangles based on the given equations, suggesting that the cosine rule applies. There are attempts to relate the sides and angles using the sine rule and cosine rule, but some express uncertainty about how to proceed.

Discussion Status

Participants are exploring different interpretations of the problem, particularly the geometric representation of the equations. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of triangles and the cosine rule, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or methods to be used.

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Some participants express confusion about the necessity of drawing triangles and applying trigonometric rules, indicating a potential gap in understanding the geometric implications of the equations provided.

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Homework Statement


If [tex]m^{2}+m' ^{2}+2mm' cos \theta=1[/tex]

[tex]n^{2}+n' ^{2}+2nn' cos \theta=1[/tex]

[tex]mn+m'n'+(mn'+m'n)cos \theta =0[/tex],
then prove that [tex]m^{2}+n^{2}=cosec^{2} \theta[/tex]




The Attempt at a Solution


I have tri a lot but its difficult to eliminate m' or n'

If I add the first to equations and separate m^2+n^2 to left ide, again its difficult to prov the RHS to [tex]cosec ^{2} \theta[/tex]
 
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ritwik06 said:
If [tex]m^{2}+m' ^{2}+2mm' cos \theta=1[/tex]

[tex]n^{2}+n' ^{2}+2nn' cos \theta=1[/tex]

[tex]mn+m'n'+(mn'+m'n)cos \theta =0[/tex],
then prove that [tex]m^{2}+n^{2}=cosec^{2} \theta[/tex]

Hi ritwik06! :smile:

Well, looking at the the first two equations, you're obviously supposed to draw a triangle with sides m and m', and an angle of π - θ between them. :wink:

Give the name φ to the angle opposite m (so the angle opposite m' is … ?).

Then do the same with n n ' and ψ.

And then use the sine rule … :smile:
 
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tiny-tim said:
Hi ritwik06! :smile:

Well, looking at the the first two equations, you're obviously supposed to draw a triangle with sides m and m', and an angle of π - θ between them. :wink:

Give the name φ to the angle opposite m (so the angle opposite m' is … ?).

Then do the same with n n ' and ψ.

And then use the sine rule … :smile:

Hi tim :smile:

Well I am not familiar with this. though I have used sine rule in physics. Please tell me why am I expected to make a triangle ?? and what shall I do with this thing? Simply applying:

sin a /a=sin b/ b =sin c /c won't solve my purpose, i have tried it. :wink:
regards
 
cosine rule for triangles …

ritwik06 said:
Please tell me why am I expected to make a triangle ??

ah … perhaps you haven't done the cosine rule for triangles …

a2 = b2 + c2 - 2bc cosA​

so the reason to make this particular triangle is because the first two equations given are the cosine rule for two triangles, both with one side of length a = 1, and both with opposite angle π - θ, one with the other sides of length m and m', and the other n and n'.

(check for yourself that the cosine rule really does give those two equations for those triangles)

Draw those triangles, and apply the sine rule to get m and m' in terms of θ and φ, and n and n' in terms of θ and ψ.

Then plug those values into the third given equation, which should give you a nice relationship between θ φ and ψ. :smile:
 


ritwik06 said:
Hi tim :smile:

Well I am not familiar with this. though I have used sine rule in physics. Please tell me why am I expected to make a triangle ?? and what shall I do with this thing? Simply applying:

sin a /a=sin b/ b =sin c /c won't solve my purpose, i have tried it. :wink:
regards
Because the cosine law says that if a triangle has sides of length a, b, c and A is the angle opposite side A, then c2= a2+ b2- 2ab cos(A).

The equation [itex]m^2+ m'^2+ 2mm'cos(\theta)= 1[/quote] differs from that only only in having "+" instead of "-". Since [itex]cos(\pi- \theta)= -cos(\theta[/itex]), that should make you think of a triangle having sides of length m, m', and 1 and having angle [itex]\pi- \theta[/itex] opposite the side of length 1.[/itex]
 

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