Prove $(1-x^2)y_{n+2} - (2n+1)xy_{n+1}+(m^2-n^2)y_n=0$ for y=sin(m \arcsin x)

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The discussion revolves around proving a recurrence relation involving the function \( y = \sin(m \arcsin x) \). The specific equation to prove is $$(1-x^2)y_{n+2} - (2n+1)xy_{n+1}+(m^2-n^2)y_n=0$$, which is related to the derivatives of the function.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss finding a general expression for \( y_n \) and express difficulty in calculating higher derivatives. There is mention of using induction as a potential method to prove the relation. Some participants question the notation used for derivatives and suggest standardizing it for clarity.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different approaches, including induction. Some guidance has been offered regarding the use of induction, but there is no explicit consensus on the next steps or a clear resolution yet.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the complexity of deriving expressions for \( y_n \) as \( n \) increases and the confusion caused by non-standard notation for derivatives. There is an emphasis on ensuring clarity in the mathematical expressions used.

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Homework Statement


For y=sin(m \arcsin x), prove that
$$(1-x^2)y_{n+2} - (2n+1)xy_{n+1}+(m^2-n^2)y_n=0 $$

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The Attempt at a Solution


My first approach would be to find a general expression for y_n. Starting with
$$y_1=m\dfrac{\cos(m \arcsin x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} \\
y_2 = m\dfrac{\cos(m \arcsin x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}(1-x^2)} - m^2 \dfrac{\sin(m \arcsin x)}{1-x^2} $$

The expression seems to get uglier as n increases and it's too difficult to calculate y_3. Also it's not easy to generalize an expression for y_n just by looking at the results obtained.
 
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Have you thought of using induction?
 
utkarshakash said:

Homework Statement


For y=sin(m \arcsin x), prove that
$$(1-x^2)y_{n+2} - (2n+1)xy_{n+1}+(m^2-n^2)y_n=0 $$

Homework Equations



The Attempt at a Solution


My first approach would be to find a general expression for y_n. Starting with
$$y_1=m\dfrac{\cos(m \arcsin x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}} \\
y_2 = m\dfrac{\cos(m \arcsin x)}{\sqrt{1-x^2}(1-x^2)} - m^2 \dfrac{\sin(m \arcsin x)}{1-x^2} $$

The expression seems to get uglier as n increases and it's too difficult to calculate y_3. Also it's not easy to generalize an expression for y_n just by looking at the results obtained.

Please do not use ##y_n## for the ##n##th derivative of ##y##; the standard notation would be ##y^{(n)}##, and your use of other notation (without explanation) is too confusing: I could not figure out what your question was asking.
 
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PeroK said:
Have you thought of using induction?

Let P(n) be the given expression.
$$P(0)=(1-x^2)y_2-3xy_1+(m^2-1)y=0$$
Let P(n) be true. Therefore,
(1-x^2)y_{n+2} - (2n+1)xy_{n+1}+(m^2-n^2)y_n=0\\ <br /> P(n+1)=(1-x^2)y_{n+3} - (2n+3)xy_{n+2}+(m^2-(n+1)^2)y_{n+1}

How do I proceed further?
 
What is the most obvious thing you can do with P(n)?
 

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