Solve Distance for Box A Sliding Down Ramp

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The problem involves a box sliding down a ramp and onto a surface, with the goal of determining the distance from the end of the surface to where the box stops. The context includes concepts from dynamics and friction, specifically focusing on kinetic friction and energy conservation principles.

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  • Participants discuss the application of work-energy principles to relate the kinetic energy gained by the box to the work done by gravity. There are attempts to calculate final velocity and time of travel, as well as the distance traveled after leaving the ramp.

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The discussion is ongoing, with participants exploring different aspects of the problem. Some have provided calculations for velocity and distance, while others have pointed out potential misunderstandings regarding the interpretation of the distance calculated versus the required distance from the end of the platform.

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There is a mention of the coefficient of kinetic friction and the frictionless nature of the ramp, which may influence the calculations. Additionally, the original poster expresses confusion regarding the discrepancy between their calculated distance and the expected answer.

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The 30 lb box A is released from rest and slides down along the smooth ramp and onto the surface. Determine the distance s from the end of the surface to where the box stops. The coefficient of kinetic friction between the cart and the box is [itex]\mu_k\,=\,0.6[/itex].

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Here is what I have so far:


[tex]-W\,\Delta\,y\,=\,(-30\,lb)\,(-4\,ft)\,=\,120\,ft\,lb[/tex]

[tex]\sum\,F_y\,=\,N\,-\,W\,=\,0\,\Rightarrow\,N\,=\,W\,=\,30\,lb[/tex]

[tex]\sum\,F_x\,=\,-f_k\,=\,m\,a_x\,\Rightarrow\,-\mu_k\,N\,=\,m\,a_x[/tex]

[tex](-0.6)\,(30\,lb)\,=\,(0.932)\,a_x[/tex]

[tex]a_x\,=\,\frac{-18.6}{0.932}\,=\,-19.3\,\frac{ft}{s^2}[/tex]

Now what?

I know I need to find [itex]v_f[/itex] and the bottom of the hill and I am probably supposed to use a work-energy equation?

[tex]\sum\,T_1\,+\,\sum\,U_{1\,-\,2}\,=\,\sum\,T_2[/tex]

Please help, thanks.
 
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VinnyCee said:
know I need to find vf and the bottom of the hill and I am probably supposed to use a work-energy equation?
Yes, as the ramp is frictionless the kinetic energy gained by the block will equal the work done by gravity; 1/2mv2 = mgh. A good point to note for future reference is that the velocity of the object is independent of the mass.
 
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Using that, I get this:

[tex]V_f^2\,=\,2\,g\,h\,=\,2\,(32.2)\,(4)\,=\,257.6[/tex]

[tex]V_f\,=\,\sqrt{257.6}\,=\,16.05\,\frac{ft}{s}[/tex]

[tex]v\,=\,v_0\,+\,a\,t[/tex]

[tex]0\,=\,16.05\,+(-19.3)\,t[/tex]

[tex]t\,=\,0.832\,s[/tex]

[tex]s\,=\,s_0\,+\,v_0\,t\,+\,\frac{1}{2}\,a\,t^2[/tex]

[tex]s\,=\,0\,+\,(16.05)\,(0.832)\,+\,\frac{1}{2}\,a\,t^2[/tex]

[tex]s\,=\,6.67\,ft[/tex]

The real answer is 3.33 ft though! What did I do wrong?
 
Your going to kick yourself for this one. You have calculated the distance travelled, not the distance from the end of the platform. HINT: What does 10 - 6.67 equal? :wink:
 
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