Solve Exercise 2.4 in Supergravity by Freedman & Van Proeyen

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The discussion revolves around Exercise 2.4 from the textbook "Supergravity" by Freedman and Van Proeyen, which involves proving identities related to the sigma matrices and their transformation properties under SL(2,C). Participants are exploring the implications of these identities and whether there may be a typo in the exercise.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the exercise, noting that they could not find any typos in the errata list and questioning whether they are missing a deeper understanding.
  • Another participant points out that the only difference between the barred and unbarred sigma matrices is the sign of ##\sigma_0##, suggesting that this should not lead to different results for the identities in question.
  • A different participant asserts that the identity involving the barred sigma matrices is true and suggests that applying the inverse SL(2,C) transformation should yield an inverse Lorentz transformation, indicating a belief in the correctness of the identity.
  • This participant also proposes an additional identity involving the unbarred sigma matrices and expresses that the initial identity holds under certain conditions regarding the transformation matrices.
  • Another participant introduces the idea that the differing index structures of the sigma matrices may account for the validity of the identities, seeking references on spinor algebra for further clarification.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on whether the exercise contains a typo or if the identities can be proven as stated. There are competing views regarding the implications of the index structures and the transformation properties of the sigma matrices.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention specific index structures and transformations, indicating that the discussion may hinge on nuanced definitions and assumptions about the sigma matrices and their properties. There is also mention of unresolved mathematical steps related to the identities.

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Hi there!

I am reading textbook "Supergravity" by Freedman and Van Proeyen and got stuck on a simple exercise (Ex 2.4). Usually I would proceed further marking it as a typo but I've checked the errata list on the website and didn't find this exercise there

Exercise 2.4 Show that ## A\bar{\sigma}_\mu A^\dagger=\bar{\sigma}_\nu \Lambda^{-1}{}^\nu{}_\mu## and ##A^\dagger \sigma A=\sigma_\nu \Lambda^\nu{}_\mu## . This gives precise meaning to the statement that the matrices ##\bar{\sigma}_\mu## and ##\sigma_\nu## are 4-vectors

Sigma matrices in this book are defined as

$$\sigma_\mu=\left(-\mathbb{1},\sigma_i\right),\;\;\; \bar{\sigma}_\mu=\sigma^\mu=\left(\mathbb{1},\sigma_i\right).$$

And SL(2,C) transformations is defined as
$$ \mathbf{x}^\prime \equiv A \mathbf{x} A^\dagger$$

The first identity in the exercise is kinda straightforward and it is also easy to see that the second one holds for barred sigma-matrices. But I didn't managed to work out the identity in the form written in the exercise

Is it a typo or I missing something very deep?
 
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It looks like the only difference between the barred and unbarred sigma matrices is that ##\sigma_0 = -1## while ##\bar \sigma_0 = 1##. Since 1 is just the identity matrix, I don't see how you could have gotten different results for the barred vs. unbarred case.
 
Since it is involved in the contraction on r.h.s. of the identity it makes difference.

This identity is true
$$ A^\dagger \bar{\sigma}_\mu A=\bar{\sigma}_\nu\Lambda^\nu{}_\mu.$$
And it is kinda obvious. When I apply inverse SL(2,C) transformation it should result in inverse Lorentz transformation.

Also one may show the following

$$A^\dagger \sigma_\nu A=\sum_\mu \sigma_\mu \Lambda_\mu{}^\nu$$
(I know that it looks weird from tensor calculus perspective. By writing this I mean one should extract exact values (for particular ##\mu## and ##\nu##)in some referrence frame)

The initial identity is proven if ## \Lambda_\mu{}^\nu=\Lambda^\mu{}_\nu##, but it is not true
 
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After some thinking and asking I believe that this identity may be true due different index structure of sigma matrices

$$ \sigma_{\mu \alpha \dot{\alpha}}, \bar{\sigma}_\mu {}^{\dot{\alpha} \alpha}$$

If someone has a nice comprehensive refference on this spinor algebra issues I would be very thankful.

P.S. It can really drive someone insane when one sees the expression like ## (M^T)_\alpha {}^\beta## without any explanation on the meaning of this notation.
 

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