Spinor Representation of Lorentz Transformations: Solving the Puzzle

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The discussion centers on the transformation of spinors under Lorentz transformations, specifically how these transformations are represented in the context of the Dirac equation and the Weyl representation. Participants explore the mathematical expressions for left-handed and right-handed spinor transformations, addressing the origins of specific factors in these expressions.

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  • One participant describes the transformation of a spinor ##\psi## under Lorentz transformations as $$\psi\rightarrow S(\Lambda)\psi$$, with $$S(\Lambda)$$ expressed in terms of the generators $$\Sigma^{\mu\nu}$$.
  • Another participant questions the presence of an additional factor of ##i## in the spatial rotations term of the transformation expressions for left-handed and right-handed spinors.
  • Some participants suggest that the parameters ##\omega_{\mu\nu}## can be defined in terms of boost and rotation parameters, but express confusion over deriving the correct transformation expressions from these definitions.
  • One participant points out that the rotations are represented by SU(2) operations, indicating a potential error in the definition of $$\Sigma^{ij}$$ due to an extra factor of ##i##.
  • There is a discussion about the antisymmetry of the Lorentz parameters and how it relates to the expressions for the gamma matrices in the chiral representation, with some participants providing detailed expansions and substitutions.
  • Another participant raises a question about the choice of parameters, particularly whether defining ##\theta^{k} = -\frac{1}{2}\epsilon^{ijk}\omega_{ij}## is merely for convenience.

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Participants express differing views on the correct forms of the transformation expressions and the definitions of the parameters involved. There is no consensus on the origin of the additional factor of ##i## or the appropriateness of the parameter definitions.

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Participants note that the derivations involve assumptions about the properties of the gamma matrices and the definitions of the Lorentz parameters, which may not be universally agreed upon. The discussion reflects ongoing exploration of these mathematical relationships without resolving the uncertainties involved.

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I've been working my way through Peskin and Schroeder and am currently on the sub-section about how spinors transform under Lorentz transformation. As I understand it, under a Lorentz transformation, a spinor ##\psi## transforms as $$\psi\rightarrow S(\Lambda)\psi$$ where $$S(\Lambda)=\exp\left(-\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu}\right)$$ with $$\Sigma^{\mu\nu}=\frac{i}{4}\left[\gamma^{\mu},\,\gamma^{\nu}\right]=-\Sigma^{\nu\mu}$$ Then, in the Weyl representation we have that $$\Sigma^{0i}=-\frac{i}{2}\left(\begin{matrix}\sigma^{i}&&0\\ 0&&-\sigma^{i}\end{matrix}\right)$$ and $$\Sigma^{ij}=\frac{i}{2}\varepsilon^{ijk}\left(\begin{matrix}\sigma^{k}&&0\\ 0&&\sigma^{k}\end{matrix}\right)$$ Given this, what confuses me is how one ends up with the following left-handed and right-handed transformations: $$S(\Lambda)_{L}=\exp\left(-\frac{\mathbf{\beta}\cdot\mathbf{\sigma}}{2}+i\frac{\mathbf{\theta}\cdot\mathbf{\sigma}}{2}\right) \\ \\ S(\Lambda)_{R}=\exp\left(\frac{\mathbf{\beta}\cdot\mathbf{\sigma}}{2}+i\frac{\mathbf{\theta}\cdot\mathbf{\sigma}}{2}\right)$$ Where does the additional ##i## come from in the spatial rotations term?

I have read from other sources, that the parameters ##\omega_{\mu\nu}## are defined such that ##\omega_{0i}=\beta_{i}## and ##\omega_{ij}=\varepsilon_{ijk}\theta^{k}##, which are the boost and rotation parameters respectively. Given these, however, I can't arrive at the above expressions. For example, for ##S(\Lambda)_{L}## I obtain
$$S(\Lambda)_{L}=\exp\left(-\frac{\mathbf{\beta}\cdot\mathbf{\sigma}}{4}+\varepsilon_{ijk}\varepsilon^{ijl}\frac{\theta^{k}\sigma^{l}}{4}\right)=\exp\left(-\frac{\mathbf{\beta}\cdot\mathbf{\sigma}}{4}+\frac{\mathbf{\theta}\cdot\mathbf{\sigma}}{2}\right)$$ where I have used that ##\varepsilon_{ijk}\varepsilon^{ijl}=2\delta_{kl}##.

Would someone be able to explain this to me as I'm really stuck on this point at the moment.
 
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The rotations are represented by the usual SU(2) operations on the left and right-handed parts of the Dirac operator. Thus, there's a factor ##\mathrm{i}## too much in your definition of ##\Sigma^{ij}##!
 
Frank Castle said:
Where does the additional ##i## come from in the spatial rotations term?
Would someone be able to explain this to me as I'm really stuck on this point at the moment.

Using the antisymmetry of the Lorentz parameters, you can write -\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \frac{1}{4} \omega_{\mu\nu} \gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{\nu} . Expanding the summation leads to -\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \frac{1}{4}\omega_{0k}\gamma^{0}\gamma^{k} + \frac{1}{4}\omega_{k0}\gamma^{k}\gamma^{0} + \frac{1}{4}\omega_{ij}\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} . The first two terms are equal, because \omega_{k0}=-\omega_{0k} and \gamma^{k}\gamma^{0} = - \gamma^{0}\gamma^{k}. Thus

-\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \frac{1}{2} \omega_{0k}\gamma^{0}\gamma^{k} + \frac{1}{4} \omega_{ij}\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} . \ \ \ (1)

Now, in the chiral representation we have

\gamma^{0}\gamma^{k} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{k} \\ - \sigma^{k} & 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} - \sigma^{k} & 0 \\ 0 & \sigma^{k} \end{pmatrix} ,

\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{i} \\ - \sigma^{i} & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{j} \\ - \sigma^{j} & 0 \end{pmatrix} = - i \epsilon^{ijk} \begin{pmatrix} \sigma^{k} & 0 \\ 0 & \sigma^{k} \end{pmatrix} .

Substituting these expressions in (1), you get

-\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \omega_{0k} \begin{pmatrix} - \frac{\sigma^{k}}{2} & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{\sigma^{k}}{2} \end{pmatrix} + i \left( - \frac{1}{2}\epsilon^{ijk}\omega_{ij} \right) \begin{pmatrix} \frac{\sigma^{k}}{2} & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{\sigma^{k}}{2} \end{pmatrix} .

Now, if you define the parameters \beta^{k} = \omega_{0k} and \theta^{k} = - \frac{1}{2}\epsilon^{ijk}\omega_{ij}, you get

-\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \begin{pmatrix} \frac{1}{2}\left( - \vec{\beta} + i \vec{\theta} \right) \cdot \vec{\sigma} & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{1}{2}\left( \vec{\beta} + i \vec{\theta} \right) \cdot \vec{\sigma} \end{pmatrix} .
 
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samalkhaiat said:
Using the antisymmetry of the Lorentz parameters, you can write -\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \frac{1}{4} \omega_{\mu\nu} \gamma^{\mu}\gamma^{\nu} . Expanding the summation leads to -\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \frac{1}{4}\omega_{0k}\gamma^{0}\gamma^{k} + \frac{1}{4}\omega_{k0}\gamma^{k}\gamma^{0} + \frac{1}{4}\omega_{ij}\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} . The first two terms are equal, because \omega_{k0}=-\omega_{0k} and \gamma^{k}\gamma^{0} = - \gamma^{0}\gamma^{k}. Thus

-\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \frac{1}{2} \omega_{0k}\gamma^{0}\gamma^{k} + \frac{1}{4} \omega_{ij}\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} . \ \ \ (1)

Now, in the chiral representation we have

\gamma^{0}\gamma^{k} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{k} \\ - \sigma^{k} & 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} - \sigma^{k} & 0 \\ 0 & \sigma^{k} \end{pmatrix} ,

\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{i} \\ - \sigma^{i} & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{j} \\ - \sigma^{j} & 0 \end{pmatrix} = - i \epsilon^{ijk} \begin{pmatrix} \sigma^{k} & 0 \\ 0 & \sigma^{k} \end{pmatrix} .

Substituting these expressions in (1), you get

-\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \omega_{0k} \begin{pmatrix} - \frac{\sigma^{k}}{2} & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{\sigma^{k}}{2} \end{pmatrix} + i \left( - \frac{1}{2}\epsilon^{ijk}\omega_{ij} \right) \begin{pmatrix} \frac{\sigma^{k}}{2} & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{\sigma^{k}}{2} \end{pmatrix} .

Now, if you define the parameters \beta^{k} = \omega_{0k} and \theta^{k} = - \frac{1}{2}\epsilon^{ijk}\omega_{ij}, you get

-\frac{i}{2}\omega_{\mu\nu}\Sigma^{\mu\nu} = \begin{pmatrix} \frac{1}{2}\left( - \vec{\beta} + i \vec{\theta} \right) \cdot \vec{\sigma} & 0 \\ 0 & \frac{1}{2}\left( \vec{\beta} + i \vec{\theta} \right) \cdot \vec{\sigma} \end{pmatrix} .

Great answer, thanks.
There's just a couple of things that I'm not quite sure about, how did you get \gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{i} \\ - \sigma^{i} & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{j} \\ - \sigma^{j} & 0 \end{pmatrix} = - i \epsilon^{ijk} \begin{pmatrix} \sigma^{k} & 0 \\ 0 & \sigma^{k} \end{pmatrix} . Naively, I get $$\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{i} \\ - \sigma^{i} & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{j} \\ - \sigma^{j} & 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} -\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} & 0\\ 0 & -\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} \end{pmatrix}$$ If I then use ##\left[\sigma^{i},\,\sigma^{j}\right]=2i\varepsilon^{ijk}\sigma^{k}## then I'll just end up with ##\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j}=\sigma^{j}\sigma^{i}+2i\varepsilon^{ijk}\sigma^{k}##?! Are you simply using that $$\omega_{ij}\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j}=\frac{1}{2}\omega_{ij}\left[\gamma^{i},\,\gamma^{j}\right]$$ such that in the Chiral representation $$\omega_{ij}\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j}=\omega_{ij}\begin{pmatrix} -\left[\sigma^{i},\,\sigma^{j}\right] & 0\\ 0 & -\left[\sigma^{i},\,\sigma^{j}\right] \end{pmatrix}=-2i\omega_{ij}\varepsilon^{ijk}\begin{pmatrix} \sigma^{k} & 0\\ 0 & \sigma^{k} \end{pmatrix}$$

Also, do we simple choose that \theta^{k} = - \frac{1}{2}\epsilon^{ijk}\omega_{ij} for convenience (absorbing the minus sign)?
 
vanhees71 said:
The rotations are represented by the usual SU(2) operations on the left and right-handed parts of the Dirac operator. Thus, there's a factor ##\mathrm{i}## too much in your definition of ##\Sigma^{ij}##!

Good point, I'd forgotten about the ##i## already in the definition of ##\Sigma^{\mu\nu}##!
Also, are the choices of for the forms of the parameters somewhat arbitrary? For example, does one choose ##\theta^{k}=-\frac{1}{2}\varepsilon^{ijk}\omega_{ij}## purely for convenience to absorb the extra factor of ##1/2## floating around?!
 
Frank Castle said:
Naively, I get $$\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} = \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{i} \\ - \sigma^{i} & 0 \end{pmatrix} \begin{pmatrix} 0 & \sigma^{j} \\ - \sigma^{j} & 0 \end{pmatrix} = \begin{pmatrix} -\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} & 0\\ 0 & -\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} \end{pmatrix}$$
So, \omega_{ij}\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} = - \begin{pmatrix} \omega_{ij}\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} & 0 \\ 0 & \omega_{ij}\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} \end{pmatrix} .

Now, use the identity \sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} = \delta^{ij} I_{2} + i \epsilon^{ijk}\sigma^{k} together with \omega_{ij}\delta^{ij} = 0.
Remember that this is a rotation in the (ij)-plane, i.e., i \neq j. And, in this case, \sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} = i \epsilon^{ijk}\sigma^{k}.

Also, do we simple choose that \theta^{k} = - \frac{1}{2}\epsilon^{ijk}\omega_{ij} for convenience?

Yes. You can choose any sign for \theta^{k} (and for \beta^{k}). I picked the minus sign so that my results agree with the expressions you wrote for S_{L}(\Lambda) and S_{R}(\Lambda).
 
samalkhaiat said:
So, \omega_{ij}\gamma^{i}\gamma^{j} = - \begin{pmatrix} \omega_{ij}\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} & 0 \\ 0 & \omega_{ij}\sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} \end{pmatrix} .

Now, use the identity \sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} = \delta^{ij} I_{2} + i \epsilon^{ijk}\sigma^{k} together with \omega_{ij}\delta^{ij} = 0.
Remember that this is a rotation in the (ij)-plane, i.e., i \neq j. And, in this case, \sigma^{i}\sigma^{j} = i \epsilon^{ijk}\sigma^{k}.

Yes. You can choose any sign for \theta^{k} (and for \beta^{k}). I picked the minus sign so that my results agree with the expressions you wrote for S_{L}(\Lambda) and S_{R}(\Lambda).

Ok great, thanks for your help. I assume what I wrote at the end of post #4 is correct?!
 

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