Solve Hermitian Operators: Prove Int. w/ Wavefuncs

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The problem involves demonstrating a property of Hermitian operators in quantum mechanics, specifically showing the equality of two integrals involving wavefunctions and an operator. The context is rooted in the study of quantum mechanics and operator theory.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss various approaches to proving the equality of the integrals, including examining the properties of Hermitian operators and using wavefunction properties. Questions arise about the justification of certain steps in the reasoning, particularly regarding the treatment of real and imaginary parts of the integrals.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing insights and clarifications on the mathematical reasoning involved. Some guidance has been offered regarding the implications of Hermitian properties, but no consensus has been reached on the specific steps needed to complete the proof.

Contextual Notes

Participants are navigating the complexities of operator adjoints and their implications in the context of wavefunctions. There is an emphasis on ensuring that the wavefunctions and operators involved meet the necessary criteria for the discussion to hold.

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Homework Statement



Show that if [tex]\Omega[/tex] is an hermitian operator, and [tex]\varphi[/tex] and [tex]\psi[/tex] are (acceptable) wavefunctions, then then

[tex]\int \phi^{*} \Omega \psi dz = \int \psi (\Omega \phi)^{*} dz[/tex]

Homework Equations



Consider the wave function [tex]\Psi = \phi + \lambda\psi[/tex]

The Attempt at a Solution



In my solution, I eventually arrive at

[tex]\int \Psi^{*} \Omega \Psi dz = \int \phi^{*} \Omega \phi dz + \lambda\lambda^{*}\int \psi^{*} \Omega \psi dz + \lambda\int \psi^{*} \Omega \phi + \lambda^{*}\int \phi^{*} \Omega \psi[/tex]

The first two terms on the right, I conclude, are real. (I deduce this because they are both essentially expectation measurements on their respective functions; if the functions are legitimate wave functions, and if the operator is Hermitian, then the result must be real). Likewise for the term on the left, which is a superposition of these two wavefunctions.

This leaves the last two terms. I'm guessing the next step is to compare real and imaginary parts of both sides -- which implies these two are also real, since there isn't anything imaginary on the left.

Now the answer would drop out nicely if I equated the conjugate of the fourth term on the right with the third term on the right, but I'm not totally clear on how that step would be justified (I presume this is the thing to do, though). Could someone make the logic of that move very explicit for me. (I'm probably just being obtuse).

Cheers.
 
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which implies these two are also real, since there isn't anything imaginary on the left.
No; it implies their sum is real.


Could someone make the logic of that move very explicit for me. (I'm probably just being obtuse).
[tex] \left(\int f(x) + i g(x) \, dx\right)^* =<br /> \left( \left( \int f(x) \, dx \right) + i \left(\int g(x) \, dx \right) \right)^* = \ldots[/tex]


You could also do it by looking at Riemann sums.
 
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If [itex]\Omega \subset \Omega^{\dagger}[/itex], then [itex]\forall \psi\in D_{\Omega} \ , \ \Omega\psi=\Omega^{\dagger} \psi[/itex]. Now consider the abstract expression [itex]\langle\phi,\Omega\psi\rangle[/itex] for some [itex]\phi,\psi\in D_{\Omega}[/itex]. Translate it into [itex]L^{2}\left(\mathbb{R},dx\right)[/itex] language. Then translate the folowing formula associated with the definition of the adjoint: if the adjoint exists, then [itex]\forall\phi\in D_{\Omega^{\dagger}}, \forall \psi\in D_{\Omega} ,\langle \phi, \Omega\psi\rangle =\langle \Omega^{\dagger}\phi, \psi\rangle[/itex] also in the same language. Then use the hermiticity of the operator and you're there.
 
Using bra-ket notation,

[tex]\int \phi^{*} \Omega \psi dz = \int \psi (\Omega \phi)^{*} dz[/tex]

Since omega is hermitian, then omega=omega^(dagger)
<phi|omega|psi>=<phi|omega^(dagger)|psi>=<omega phi|psi>
 
Thanks very much folks. :smile:
 

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