Solve Inertia & Rotation Homework - Value of g = 10ms^2

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The problem involves calculating the angular velocity of a system involving inertia and rotation, specifically concerning a square lamina and a hanging mass. The gravitational acceleration is given as 10 m/s², and the inertia of the lamina is defined in terms of its mass and radius.

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  • Participants discuss the original poster's calculations and question the assumptions regarding the source of torque in the system. There are suggestions to consider energy methods as an alternative approach.

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Participants are actively engaging in identifying flaws in the original reasoning related to torque generation. Some have suggested alternative methods, such as using energy considerations, while others are clarifying the role of tension in the system.

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There is a mention of a discrepancy between the calculated angular velocity and a provided answer, prompting further investigation into the assumptions made in the calculations. The discussion also reflects on the implications of the tension in the string versus the weight of the hanging mass.

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Value of g = ## \small \rm 10~ms^{-2}##
Inertia of the individual square lamina = ## \rm \small \frac{1}{12}mr^2 ~kgm^{2}##

The Attempt at a Solution


$$\ C=Ia$$
$$\ Moment~of~Weight~of~Particle=1.594a$$
$$\ 0.3*2g=1.594a$$
$$\ 6=1.594a$$
$$\ a=3.764$$
$$\ \omega^2 = 2a\theta$$
$$\ \omega^2 = 2*3.764*2*\pi$$
$$\ \omega^2 = 47.3$$
$$\ \omega = 6.88$$
However the answer given is ## \small \rm 6.52 ~rads^{-1}##
Can somebody please check my working and show me the flaw in my method?
There is also a method to solve this using energy consideration. Can somebody show me that method?
 
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The force that creates the torque on the combined lamina is not the weight of the particle on the end of the string.

You might consider an alternate approach using energy concepts.
 
Faiq said:
Can somebody please check my working and show me the flaw in my method?
The flaw in your reasoning is that you assumed that the torque is generated by the hanging weight not by the tension in the string. The tension is less than mg otherwise the hanging mass would not accelerate down.

On edit: Apologies for repeating TSny's comment.
 
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kuruman said:
The flaw in your reasoning is that you assumed that the torque is generated by the hanging weight not by the tension in the string. The tension is less than mg otherwise the hanging mass would not accelerate down.
So is there a way to calculate the tension?
 
TSny said:
The force that creates the torque on the combined lamina is not the weight of the particle on the end of the string.

You might consider an alternate approach using energy concepts.
This was given in response to this question.
" An alternative valid approach which was also seen is to relate the net force and the couple acting on the particle and the lamina to their linear and rotational acceleration respectively."
 
Nevermind
Got it.
 

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