Solve Infinite Square Well Homework: Find Energy, Probability

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The discussion revolves around the infinite square well (ISW) problem, specifically focusing on finding the lowest possible energy and the probability of measuring it. Participants are analyzing the wavefunction and its implications in the context of quantum mechanics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the normalization of the wavefunction and the calculation of the lowest energy state. There are questions regarding the compatibility of different statements related to energy and probability. Some participants express confusion about the dependence of probability on the size of the box and the implications of boundary conditions on the wavefunction.

Discussion Status

The discussion is active, with participants providing feedback on each other's calculations and questioning assumptions. Some guidance has been offered regarding the interpretation of the wavefunction and the nature of probability within the infinite square well context. There is no explicit consensus, but several lines of reasoning are being explored.

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Participants are working under the constraints of homework rules, which may limit the information they can share. There is an acknowledgment of potential errors in calculations, particularly regarding the integration process and the interpretation of coefficients in the wavefunction.

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Homework Statement


ISW walls at 0 and L, wavefunction ψ(x) = { A for x<L/2; -A for x>L/2. Find the lowest possible energy and the probability to measure it?

Homework Equations


Schrödinger equation

ψ(x)=(√2/L)*(sin(nπx/L)

cn=√(2/a)∫sin(nπx/L)dx {0<x<a}

En=n2π2ħ2/2ma2

The Attempt at a Solution


First I normalized and found A= 1/√L

Lowest energy = E12ħ2/2mL2

But I'm going wrong on finding the probability.

P1=|c1|2

When finding cn, I split the integral into two parts, one for ψ(x) = A for x<L/2 and one for ψ(x) = -A for x>L/2 and I get as a result:

(-2/(√L)nπ)(2cos(nπ/2-cosnπ-1) which equals 0 for odd n's and 8/(√L)nπ for even ones. Problem arises when I put that into my probability I'm left with my probability dependent on L - how is it possible that the probability of a particle having a certain energy be dependent on the size of our made up box? I've checked the integral over a thousand times and can't find a mistake. Help?
 
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danmel413 said:
ψ(x)=(√2/L)*(sin(nπx/L)
Is this equation correct?

danmel413 said:
cn=√(2/a)∫sin(nπx/L)dx {0<x<a}
Not sure what that represents.

danmel413 said:
Lowest energy = E12ħ2/2mL2

(-2/(√L)nπ)(2cos(nπ/2-cosnπ-1) which equals 0 for odd n's
Are these two statements compatible?
 
danmel413 said:
which equals 0 for odd n's and 8/(√L)nπ for even ones. Problem arises when I put that into my probability I'm left with my probability dependent on L - how is it possible that the probability of a particle having a certain energy be dependent on the size of our made up box? I've checked the integral over a thousand times and can't find a mistake. Help?

the probability of a particle confined in a box of infinite depth is a confinement and its energy goes higher as the width is lower.
the position probability is never a constant inside a box .pl. check your calculation and the limits . it may be zero at certain points.and maximum at other points.
one should see a textbook for plot of probability for different states .
 
danmel413 said:
When finding cn, I split the integral into two parts, one for ψ(x) = A for x<L/2 and one for ψ(x) = -A for x>L/2 and I get as a result:

(-2/(√L)nπ)(2cos(nπ/2-cosnπ-1)

All of your work looks good, except I don't agree with your numerical factor out front in your result for the integration. As you say, L should not appear. I also get √2 in the numerator instead of 2. So, check your integration again (makes a thousand and 1 times).

When writing fractions with the symbol /, make sure you put the entire denominator in parentheses to agree with "order of operations".
 
drvrm said:
the position probability is never a constant inside a box .
That's true if the particle is in one of the energy eigenstates. But here, it is assumed that the particle is in the state given (which would be a superposition of energy eigenstates). The boundary conditions require that the wavefunction goes to zero at the endpoints of the well. So, I guess you need to assume the wavefunction goes from ±A to zero over a negligible interval near the endpoints.
 
Thanks everyone for your help. I realized my entire problem came from me not copying down the coefficient equation correctly when I went to solve it.
 

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