Solve Initial Value Problem: dy/dt = ty(4-y)/3 with y(0) = a | Calculus Homework

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The discussion revolves around solving an initial value problem described by the differential equation dy/dt = ty(4-y)/3 with the initial condition y(0) = a. Participants are exploring methods to separate variables and manipulate the equation to express y in terms of t and the initial value a.

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  • Participants discuss separating variables and using partial fractions to manipulate the equation. There are questions about how to express the solution in a clear form based on the initial value a.

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Several participants have provided insights on rewriting the solution and clarifying the notation used in the equations. There is an ongoing exploration of how the initial value affects the solution, with suggestions on solving for constants based on the initial condition.

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Participants are addressing potential typos in the mathematical expressions and clarifying the notation to avoid confusion. The discussion includes considerations of how constants in the solution relate to the initial value provided.

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Hello, I am wondering if someone can look at the following:

suppose I'm given an initial value problem: dy/dt = ty(4-y)/3 with y(0) = a.

So, if I separable the variables, i would get:

dy/4(4-y) = t/3dt
and I would get by partial fractions
(1/4)*lny-(1/4)ln(4-y) = t^2/6 + C
(1/4)*ln(y/4-y) = t^2/6+C
or (y/4-y) = e^((2/3)t^2 +4C)

so can anyone tell me how I would determine how the value of the solution would vary depending on the initial value a? in other words, how could i get this into a nice form y = ...

Thanks very much.
 
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bodensee9 said:

Homework Statement


Hello, I am wondering if someone can look at the following:

suppose I'm given an initial value problem: dy/dt = ty(4-y)/3 with y(0) = a.

So, if I separable the variables, i would get:

dy/4(4-y) = t/3dt
I presume that is a typo: dy/(y(4-y))= (t/3)dt

and I would get by partial fractions
(1/4)*lny-(1/4)ln(4-y) = t^2/6 + C
(1/4)*ln(y/4-y) = t^2/6+C
or (y/4-y) = e^((2/3)t^2 +4C)[/quote ]
y/(4-y) looks better- many people would read y/4-y as (y/4)- y.
Of course, e^((2/3)t^2+ 4C)= (e^(4C))(e^((2/3)t^2)
and since C could be any number, anyway, call that e^(4C), C".
y/(4-y)= C' e^((2/3)t^2)

so can anyone tell me how I would determine how the value of the solution would vary depending on the initial value a? in other words, how could i get this into a nice form y = ...

Thanks very much.
By "initial value" you mean y(0)= a? Okay, replace t by 0, y by a and solve for C' (or C).
 
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You can write the solution a little more nicely as y/(4-y)=D*exp((2/3)t^2) (where D=exp(4C) - but it's still just a constant). So your initial value problem is a/(4-a)=D. Solve for a. Clear the fractions, move all the a's to one side etc. You can solve for y(t) in the same way.
 
Got it. Many thanks!
 

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